Potentially a new stadium,i really hope not

1 hour ago, Hunter91 said:

But it’s not fit for purpose. I enjoy watching the team, but honestly Hillsborough is so outdated, I don’t even think redevelopment can bring it up to standards. There’s only so much you can paper over the cracks.

That’s not the case. I could post a few grounds that have managed to develop and diversify their stadium on their traditional footprint. 

12 minutes ago, El Wednesday said:

Blunts fans are absolutely terrified of us getting a new stadium. It would totally transform our club and leave them in the dust. 

I think they really are worried. They’ve had a pretty good run of things over the last few years but are in real danger of going in the direction we did 25 years ago. If we do get a really wealthy and ambitious owner and start on a stadium build it will absolutely flatten them. I know how I would feel if the roles were reversed. 
I don’t have any sympathy though. We’ve had some really awful times since 2000 while they laughed at us. 
 

It doesn’t matter what happens today for The Times They Are A-Changin’

1 hour ago, M Royds said:

Our ground is history and tradition. 

See also; Highbury, Upton Park, White Hart Lane, Goodison Park, Maine Road..

I mean they’re knocking the San Siro down.. Old Trafford will follow..

26 minutes ago, Brad_owl said:

You are limiting the club with this train of thought really. Spend £50/100m giving the old girl a glow up, and still hit revenues for 23 days a year.

 

I can only surmise the people that don't want to move are because of selfish reasons. Ie the journey in is 10 minutes on the bus, or they are sentimental fans. No fan wishing the club to progress would want us to stay and throw money at a ground that is literally in a flood zone. 

 

I just cannot understand the argument to stay. 

 

Think bigger. 

Yes, I can see how Liverpool have really struggled.  Those Champions League matches and Premiership titles have all happened despite them being bogged down by Anfield I guess. 
 

I'm a traditionalist. Insinuating selfishness isn’t really very polite. 

100% we should move if a site is available and if we want to grow and compete towards the top level.

After a season or two of adjustment, I would imagine everyone would love it.

8 minutes ago, M Royds said:

Far too simplistic dismissal. 

Nope.

Times have changed since Hillsborough was built and even since the WC plans. Failure to keep up is regression.

The reality is if I chat to any 'casual' football fan in the southern half of this country they are shocked that Hillsborough is even still as a sporting venue. 

For image, financial and all sorts of transport-related practical reasons these things vastly outweigh "but what about the history"?

2 minutes ago, sheffield_dave said:

See also; Highbury, Upton Park, White Hart Lane, Goodison Park, Maine Road..

 

I mean they’re knocking the San Siro down.. Old Trafford will follow..

The San Siro is crumbling away due to age. Even news stadiums will have an expiry date.

5 minutes ago, Essix Blue said:

Which one?

The one we’ve played at for 125 years. The ground that has seen triumphs and tragedies. The ground that is a beautiful sight when walking down Herries Road and Halifax Road. 
 

Obviously im no expert in stadium construct and I know there’s a powerful argument for moving ground but Im not buying this that hillsborough cannot be developed, with a bigger capacity, be flood resistant, and be a ground that could diversify to hold other events. 
 

I’ve posted about other grounds that are hemmed in by water, houses and roads that have managed to develop their stadiums because they value tradition and their history, which is also a saleable asset. 
 

The last flat pack stadium I went to, Bolton, was not a good experience. 

New stadium would be incredible. I think the right design could retain some Hillsborough character.

Location wise then redeveloping the existing footprint would be ideal but it’s probably more expensive to do that and with fewer returns 

6 minutes ago, M Royds said:

The one we’ve played at for 125 years. The ground that has seen triumphs and tragedies. The ground that is a beautiful sight when walking down Herries Road and Halifax Road. 
 

Obviously im no expert in stadium construct and I know there’s a powerful argument for moving ground but Im not buying this that hillsborough cannot be developed, with a bigger capacity, be flood resistant, and be a ground that could diversify to hold other events. 
 

I’ve posted about other grounds that are hemmed in by water, houses and roads that have managed to develop their stadiums because they value tradition and their history, which is also a saleable asset. 
 

The last flat pack stadium I went to, Bolton, was not a good experience. 

Thinks can be done can’t they but anyone doing it will look at viability 

11 minutes ago, Spookone said:

 

After a season or two of adjustment, I would imagine everyone would love it.

I think this is an important factor that has not been discussed.

How many fans would NOT go to a new stadium?

We hear how lots of new fans start going to new stadiums for other clubs. That's how their attendances are boosted of course. But we never hear of the fans who thought 'nah, that's not for me'.

I've said it before, there are thousands of fans who don't drive and live in the area that walk to the ground.

Would they travel 5+ miles on our public transport system?

Humans get attached to things.

A new ground shows that the potential new owner isn’t here to mess about.

A new ground gets new opposites. You’d get gigs there, performances, euros and World Cup games.

Hillsborough is a wonderful ground, I’ll miss it terribly but time moves on. Long as we take the clock and that from the south I’ll be happy.
 

Its a super exciting time to be a Wednesday fan, weirdly!

1 minute ago, Bluesteel. said:

New stadium would be incredible. I think the right design could retain some Hillsborough character.

 

Location wise then redeveloping the existing footprint would be ideal but it’s probably more expensive to do that and with fewer returns 

How many times are we going to continue with this myth. Eastwoods design to expand Hillsborough to 50k capacity came out at  50% of the cost for a comparable new build.

Source, Lee Strafford on here a few months ago.

I’d hope a new owner is just covering all bases.

If Hillsborough cannot be redeveloped then we would have to move eventually.

Still talking years though.

But look at Birmingham, their new owners have bumped them up massively

I’m in the redevelopment camp, but I fully understand the argument of a new ground and I wouldn’t be against it, but I would be against it if it meant moving the club to the opposite end of the city or out on the outskirts. It needs to be close to where it is now. 
 

Sheffield Wednesday is hillsborough, it’s walking through park with a beres.