BIG D Posted October 18 Posted October 18 Not sure what’s going off but here’s Curtis Davies knocking Paddy Kenny out
NYCOWL Posted October 19 Posted October 19 Imagine paying to witness that in the flesh. ”A pint of Brexit please” 7
Owl.1867 Posted October 19 Posted October 19 This is why I hate these white collar boxing type things, including when it's the ones like this with celebrities or former sportsmen. The people running them are stupidly irresponsible. From the first seconds, whilst both are all over the place, it was clear that these two should not have been in the same ring. Forget who they are/were; these two individuals were so clearly mismatched that it shouldn't have been allowed to happen. I might not like Kenny, and wanted to open this and have a laugh, but this is the kind of thing that makes these events so dangerous, because they make these terrible matchmaking decisions. 1 7
Screen Door Slams Posted October 19 Posted October 19 2 hours ago, Owl.1867 said: This is why I hate these white collar boxing type things, including when it's the ones like this with celebrities or former sportsmen. The people running them are stupidly irresponsible. From the first seconds, whilst both are all over the place, it was clear that these two should not have been in the same ring. Forget who they are/were; these two individuals were so clearly mismatched that it shouldn't have been allowed to happen. I might not like Kenny, and wanted to open this and have a laugh, but this is the kind of thing that makes these events so dangerous, because they make these terrible matchmaking decisions. I agree.............10 seconds into this I`m thinking FFS ref stop this as Kenny could get seriously hurt or worse. 2
Johnny Concrete Posted October 19 Posted October 19 3 hours ago, Owl.1867 said: This is why I hate these white collar boxing type things, including when it's the ones like this with celebrities or former sportsmen. The people running them are stupidly irresponsible. From the first seconds, whilst both are all over the place, it was clear that these two should not have been in the same ring. Forget who they are/were; these two individuals were so clearly mismatched that it shouldn't have been allowed to happen. I might not like Kenny, and wanted to open this and have a laugh, but this is the kind of thing that makes these events so dangerous, because they make these terrible matchmaking decisions. The thing is, its the coaches choice as to wether telling them they're ready or not. The gym I train at has some lads who come with intention of doing a white collar event, most of the time its 8/9 weeks training. Some you can tell from the off if they are going to handle it and should be entering the events. The standard basics of learning to defend yourself, some seem to treat it as a street brawl thinking they can just swing their way and hopefully land a clean punch. You can try and coach that many times as you want but some just never seem to get the fundamentals right. We had one lad who to his credit had a decent jab and could hit, but his defence work was terrible, hands down and chin constantly exposed, no slipping shots, both myself and the coach tried to advise him this when we sparred (btw I'm not pro or expert at any level I've just done it for a long time to keep on top of mental and physical fitness) but he was adamant he would be fine as in his words he would "blitz the lad out in first round" and believed he was physically fine to fight, anyway he ended up getting caught and lost to a TKO. He never returned after but yes it can be quite dangerous sending someone in with limited training/experience 1 2
the_forgotten_city Posted October 19 Posted October 19 That’s pretty disgraceful from the ref. And equally bad from Kenny’s corner. By the way, is the same thing ex-Owl Anthony Gardner was taking part in? Saw something about it the other day.
the_forgotten_city Posted October 19 Posted October 19 Worst bit about it is Davies clearly has heavy hands and is massive. He was connecting at will with really heavy shots. Bad match up. 1
the_vinyl_frontier Posted October 19 Posted October 19 Must have been a pretty big queue of people wanting to have a go at punching him.
NYCOWL Posted October 19 Posted October 19 Also is the ring smaller than usual? Just to make sure he receives the maximum of beatings. An utterly grotesque spectacle 1 1
NYCOWL Posted October 19 Posted October 19 12 hours ago, Johnny Concrete said: The thing is, its the coaches choice as to wether telling them they're ready or not. The gym I train at has some lads who come with intention of doing a white collar event, most of the time its 8/9 weeks training. Some you can tell from the off if they are going to handle it and should be entering the events. The standard basics of learning to defend yourself, some seem to treat it as a street brawl thinking they can just swing their way and hopefully land a clean punch. You can try and coach that many times as you want but some just never seem to get the fundamentals right. We had one lad who to his credit had a decent jab and could hit, but his defence work was terrible, hands down and chin constantly exposed, no slipping shots, both myself and the coach tried to advise him this when we sparred (btw I'm not pro or expert at any level I've just done it for a long time to keep on top of mental and physical fitness) but he was adamant he would be fine as in his words he would "blitz the lad out in first round" and believed he was physically fine to fight, anyway he ended up getting caught and lost to a TKO. He never returned after but yes it can be quite dangerous sending someone in with limited training/experience They have to be willing to actually be coached. My girl has only been training for a year, sparring for less than 3 months, but she knows how to defend herself. https://youtube.com/shorts/F2ob4gJjG4A?si=vTFGFCKmgiPfcrsw 2
g-owls Posted October 19 Posted October 19 Too many people think that boxing is purely about training to knock the opponent out, as opposed to giving yourself the best possible chance of not being knocked out yourself. 1
NYCOWL Posted October 20 Posted October 20 18 hours ago, Owl.1867 said: This is why I hate these white collar boxing type things, including when it's the ones like this with celebrities or former sportsmen. The people running them are stupidly irresponsible. This. Forget the ref, or his corner. This kind of freakshow should be illegal. 1 1 1
Owl.1867 Posted October 20 Posted October 20 4 hours ago, NYCOWL said: This. Forget the ref, or his corner. This kind of freakshow should be illegal. It's also about what the incentive is. Someone else in the thread mentioned about how some people never get the hang of it, whether physically or mentally. Unless there is another person in that same space and also physically comparable, the organisers need to do the hard work of saying "look, you can train these weeks, feel good in your body, get fitter, keep trying, but we are simply not putting you in the ring". Unfortunately, they are paid to put people in the ring for a paid-for experience. A proper trainer would continue telling someone that they are not ready, because they are incentivised not to be known as irresponsible, or just a bad trainer. 1
Anthndav Posted October 20 Posted October 20 (edited) Kenny went in like a steam train against a stronger opponent. He soon punched himself out. Towards the end he made no effort to defend his chin and should have been stopped or paused way before the knock out in my opinion. People think boxing is easy. The amount of stamina it takes is unreal. We used to do 2 mins round in Thai boxing classes and that was knackering. I'm fairly fit too and have run marathons and half marathon. The amount of stamina is unreal. Edited October 20 by Anthndav 1
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