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This is why I hate these white collar boxing type things, including when it's the ones like this with celebrities or former sportsmen. The people running them are stupidly irresponsible.

 

From the first seconds, whilst both are all over the place, it was clear that these two should not have been in the same ring. Forget who they are/were; these two individuals were so clearly mismatched that it shouldn't have been allowed to happen. I might not like Kenny, and wanted to open this and have a laugh, but this is the kind of thing that makes these events so dangerous, because they make these terrible matchmaking decisions.

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2 hours ago, Owl.1867 said:

This is why I hate these white collar boxing type things, including when it's the ones like this with celebrities or former sportsmen. The people running them are stupidly irresponsible.

 

From the first seconds, whilst both are all over the place, it was clear that these two should not have been in the same ring. Forget who they are/were; these two individuals were so clearly mismatched that it shouldn't have been allowed to happen. I might not like Kenny, and wanted to open this and have a laugh, but this is the kind of thing that makes these events so dangerous, because they make these terrible matchmaking decisions.

 

I agree.............10 seconds into this I`m thinking FFS ref stop this as Kenny could get seriously hurt or worse.

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3 hours ago, Owl.1867 said:

This is why I hate these white collar boxing type things, including when it's the ones like this with celebrities or former sportsmen. The people running them are stupidly irresponsible.

 

From the first seconds, whilst both are all over the place, it was clear that these two should not have been in the same ring. Forget who they are/were; these two individuals were so clearly mismatched that it shouldn't have been allowed to happen. I might not like Kenny, and wanted to open this and have a laugh, but this is the kind of thing that makes these events so dangerous, because they make these terrible matchmaking decisions.

 

The thing is, its the coaches choice as to wether telling them they're ready or not. The gym I train at has some lads who come with intention of doing a white collar event, most of the time its 8/9 weeks training. Some you can tell from the off if they are going to handle it and should be entering the events. The standard basics of learning to defend yourself, some seem to treat it as a street brawl thinking they can just swing their way and hopefully land a clean punch. You can try and coach that many times as you want but some just never seem to get the fundamentals right. We had one lad who to his credit had a decent jab and could hit, but his defence work was terrible, hands down and chin constantly exposed, no slipping shots, both myself and the coach tried to advise him this when we sparred (btw I'm not pro or expert at any level I've just done it for a long time to keep on top of mental and physical fitness) but he was adamant he would be fine as in his words he would "blitz the lad out in first round" and believed he was physically fine to fight, anyway he ended up getting caught and lost to a TKO. He never returned after but yes it can be quite dangerous sending someone in with limited training/experience 

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Also is the ring smaller than usual? 
 

Just to make sure he receives the maximum of beatings.

 

An utterly grotesque spectacle 

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12 hours ago, Johnny Concrete said:

 

The thing is, its the coaches choice as to wether telling them they're ready or not. The gym I train at has some lads who come with intention of doing a white collar event, most of the time its 8/9 weeks training. Some you can tell from the off if they are going to handle it and should be entering the events. The standard basics of learning to defend yourself, some seem to treat it as a street brawl thinking they can just swing their way and hopefully land a clean punch. You can try and coach that many times as you want but some just never seem to get the fundamentals right. We had one lad who to his credit had a decent jab and could hit, but his defence work was terrible, hands down and chin constantly exposed, no slipping shots, both myself and the coach tried to advise him this when we sparred (btw I'm not pro or expert at any level I've just done it for a long time to keep on top of mental and physical fitness) but he was adamant he would be fine as in his words he would "blitz the lad out in first round" and believed he was physically fine to fight, anyway he ended up getting caught and lost to a TKO. He never returned after but yes it can be quite dangerous sending someone in with limited training/experience 

They have to be willing to actually be coached.

 

My girl has only been training for a year, sparring for less than 3 months, but she knows how to defend herself.

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/F2ob4gJjG4A?si=vTFGFCKmgiPfcrsw

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Too many people think that boxing is purely about training to knock the opponent out, as opposed to giving yourself the best possible chance of not being knocked out yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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18 hours ago, Owl.1867 said:

This is why I hate these white collar boxing type things, including when it's the ones like this with celebrities or former sportsmen. The people running them are stupidly irresponsible.

 

This. Forget the ref, or his corner. This kind of freakshow should be illegal. 

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4 hours ago, NYCOWL said:

This. Forget the ref, or his corner. This kind of freakshow should be illegal. 

 

It's also about what the incentive is. Someone else in the thread mentioned about how some people never get the hang of it, whether physically or mentally. Unless there is another person in that same space and also physically comparable, the organisers need to do the hard work of saying "look, you can train these weeks, feel good in your body, get fitter, keep trying, but we are simply not putting you in the ring".

 

Unfortunately, they are paid to put people in the ring for a paid-for experience. A proper trainer would continue telling someone that they are not ready, because they are incentivised not to be known as irresponsible, or just a bad trainer.

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Kenny went in like a steam train against a stronger opponent. He soon punched himself out. Towards the end he made no effort to defend his chin and should have been stopped or paused way before the knock out in my opinion.

 

People think boxing is easy. The amount of stamina it takes is unreal. 

 

We used to do 2 mins round in Thai boxing classes and that was knackering. I'm fairly fit too and have run marathons and half marathon. 

 

The amount of stamina is unreal.

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