FH tonight.

Seriously how the fizz can anybody still be pro DC? Absolutely thick as pig poo these folk are beyond help 

10 hours ago, Ian_D said:

I listened to it later on, on BBC Sounds.  Was a good listen mostly.  One guy near the end seemed to be against the protests though.

Guessing he posts on TWS under the name Andy Ben 

Notebook LLM transcription:

 

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Anonymous Caller 1

Host: We have had a call from an anonymous caller who I believe is a Sheffield Wednesday fan who went onto the pitch at the weekend

. So, good evening

.

Anonymous Caller 1: Yeah, good evening, Rob

. Yeah, that's correct

.

Host: Why did you go on the pitch?

 

Anonymous Caller 1: It was the next step, Rob

. Um I was I was conflicted uh with the whole thing. It's not something I've really done before in my life, but it it was the next step. Uh it's what was needed. Um it wasn't an easy decision, but I just want to pay praise to the two um two fellow middle-aged guys who ran on from the center of the north who kind of inspired everybody else to get on

.

Host: Were you always intending to run on because we'd seen people suggesting this was something that was going to happen or was it a spur-of-the- moment thing for you?

 

Anonymous Caller 1: No, no, no, no. I made I pretty much made the decision the night before, slept on it and thought, "Yeah, I'll go for it"

. And particularly once seeing others going on, that's when I decided to do the same

.

Host: And what were you thinking when you were on that pitch and you were delivering that protest? What's going through your head?

 

Anonymous Caller 1: Um, it was all over pretty quickly to be fair, Rob

. Um, I I I do wish there'd have been more people who would have come on as well. That's not to criticize rest of the fans. Everybody has to make their own decisions. Um, I I did I did sort of um I was I was I am fairly critical of certain prominent accounts on X who sought to put fans off talking about the moral high ground talking about making the club less salailable sellable rather which is utter nonsense. uh people have to know they have to know what the consequences are and that's quite rightly what Alex Miller did with his article in the star uh and and of course radio Sheffield did the same. um But, you know, to to to actually put people off from doing it, you know, let adults make the decisions and it it it could have been a little bit more successful, but overall, I think we uh I think we did well

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Host: Can I ask what happened when you left the pitch? So, did you leave the pitch off your own accord? You know, you weren't forced off the pitch. And when you got back to the stand, what happened then?

 

Anonymous Caller 1: I think it's fair to say we were shephered off the pitch by the stewards

. It it was quite clear there weren't the numbers to sit down in the center circle. Uh would have all, you know, been manhandled and goodness knows what next. So we we just kind of well I started in one part of the ground and ended up watching the rest of the game in a different part of the ground. Um so that's a first for me. But um but yeah uh there there was no well so far there's no consequences

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Host: So just to confirm then so you've not had anything there was nothing from the police on the day and you've not heard anything since. in terms of any kind of punishment or or um effects of of running onto the pitch

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Anonymous Caller 1: So far so good

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Host: And what did you make of the reaction? Cuz I was at Hillsborough and uh it seemed to be warmly received and I think quite a few of us were wondering what's the reaction going to be because we have seen protests booed in the past

. Yet the Sheffy Wednesday fans seem to be very supportive of the people who were doing it. The Coventry fans gave the Wednesday fans a stand in ovation. So what was your sort of feeling about the reaction from supporters?

 

Anonymous Caller 1: Yeah, absolutely

. I mean the direction from the home fans was outstanding as was the commentary fans too. Uh it was really wellreceived. I did kind of measure the uh what the consensus of opinion would be prior to asking around my friends and most people thought it was the next thing to do

.

Host: And what about now? You've just heard Ian Bennett talking there um about what the next sta stage is in terms of boycotting the the Middlesbrough game and and not turning up to that game

. The fans have obviously done that quite effectively for the League Cup games. Very few people attended those uh from a Sheffield Wednesday persuasion. Uh do you think that's a good idea? Is that a good next step for Sheffield Wednesday fans to make themselves heard?

 

Anonymous Caller 1: Yeah, absolutely

. Look, the the trusty Sterling work. um as as Ian said, they can't con condone the pitch protests. I know they're there with us in spirit. Uh but yeah, they've got the they've got the angle spot on yet again by uh by by calling for a boycott for for a night match is an easy option I think for most people

.

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Anonymous Caller 2

Anonymous Caller 2: Hi, I was on the pitch uh on Saturday at Hillsborough

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Host: Give us your perspective then

. We'll start with the same question as the last anonymous caller. Why did you want to run to the pitch or why did you feel it was necessary?

 

Anonymous Caller 2: I was slightly more spont spontaneous than that to be honest

. Rob, we were in the pub beforehand and I wasn't really aware that the there was a huge amount of traction on social media for doing it. And a couple of friends said, "Listen, you know, we we've heard that this might be happening. I think we should do it. if if it actually comes to bear". And I said, well, I shan be the first man through the door, but if there are, you know, enough people, let's go for it. And that's what we did really. It was as simple as that

.

Host: So, you're on the pitch

. Uh the protest is ongoing and what are you thinking as it's all unfolding?

 

Anonymous Caller 2: Okay

. Well, we were in the Southand, so as soon as we saw the guys on with the flag, we jumped up from our seats and made our way down the stairs. So much encouragement, I have to say uh when we got to the bottom of the stairs, there was a steward or two grappling with someone that was trying to do the same. So, we ducked to the right and jumped over the hoardings and made our way scarves the loft out into the center

.

Host: And when you're on the pitch, did you did the the stewards who were there, did they uh come up to you at any point? We we saw obviously Barry Bannon was talking to some of the protesters

. Did you interact with anybody while you were there?

 

Anonymous Caller 2: Yeah, we interacted with players and stewards uh all all fairly friendly

. Uh my friend said he thought that Amos and um Jamal were much much more handsome in the flesh than he did visit, which was nice. Uh and I did have a steward come up to me, a young lady. I don't want to get into trouble, but she said uh you know, you need to get off the pitch. And I said, "Well, I'm never so sorry. I'm not going to do that". And uh she just gave me a smile and said, "That's fine". Which was lovely

.

Host: And then so everyone ran on the pitch

. You're on the pitch as well. Uh Then the protest ended and the majority of people who came on seemed to leave the pitch on their own. You know, they didn't need to be ushered off the pitch. They kind of just walked over towards sort of the northstand area and left. So when things had sort of finished off and and the protest was ending, what did you do?

 

Anonymous Caller 2: Well, it it felt like the job was done to be honest

. After as soon as we were on there, it felt like for the first time the stadium and the 10-minute pro protest was properly galvanized into action by an event. and it felt like, you know, we'd served our purpose and it was certainly the noisiest and most viciferous uh 10-minute protest that we've had in the stadium, which I just I felt really proud. I I thought it was fantastic. uh So once that was established, uh we I said to my friend, you know, we better we better try and get out of here successfully. And I just waited for a gap in the stewards and um dug back up the correct gang way and I tried to make my way back to my seat which was very difficult because on every step I was stopped by people shaking my hand and saying thanks for doing that. um My friend uh must have got slightly confused cuz he went up the wrong gang way and he didn't appear for about 10 minutes. I thought he'd been something sinister more sinister had happened to him but then he turned up and just said he'd taken the wrong turn

.

Host: And uh the the last anonymous caller said um not had not been arrested obviously had not received anything from either the police or the club uh since Saturday

. Is that the same with you?

 

Anonymous Caller 2: That is the same

. Nothing so far. And we we watched the rest of the game uh without any drama

.

Host: There are some people that we had on Saturday uh when we did the phone in I think there was at least two or three people who who rang in and said, "Oh, I I didn't agree with it

. Didn't agree with the running on the pitch". If there are people who feel like it was the wrong thing to do, what would you say to them?

 

Anonymous Caller 2: They're the same people that think that Chanceri's done a good job

. And they're the same people that don't quite I think either people are dafted and and can't see the big picture. They're naive, which is which is perfectly okay and perfectly understandable, or they do understand the big picture, but they still still put their enjoyment on a Saturday over and above the removal of somebody that's taken the club to almost to the wall. You know, this is all a necessary evil. I feel really sorry for the staff that are suffering and the players that are suffering in this way and the manager, but it you've got to do something. You've got to do something because there's a lunatic in the center of this situation that just doesn't seem doesn't seem to answer to reason. And desperate times mean desperate measures. You'll never get anybody to agree 100%. There's always going to be a few desenters. But based on where I sit now, looking back on Saturday, uh I think that we all did the right thing and I think it will turn into something bigger next time

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Host: How much are you worried about the future of the club?

 

Anonymous Caller 2: Uh I I'm I'm not worried about the future of the club

. I think it was Simon and Jordan that said, you know, football clubs survive, owners don't. And I think that's where we are. This is a cliche today, but we are absolutely the last sleeping giant. The potential is huge and somebody will want to buy Sheffield Wednesday and if it's the right person, they'll be rewarded with the sunlight uplands of, you know, the very top of the Premier League

.

Would love to hear the reasoning as to why people are still backing dc. The mind boggles 

16 minutes ago, Mr. Chow said:

Would love to hear the reasoning as to why people are still backing dc. The mind boggles 

Hazard a guess that it's more  the wednesday are playing so I'll be there rather than them backing the owner even if by going they are, same with  the fans who travel away .......

7 hours ago, mozzy85 said:

Was about to say this. 
 

I’ll just add, if you’re still on Chansiri’s side you’re a f##king idiot….i’m not just saying that to be mean, you actually are stupid and an idiot and a f##king ******** stain along with it. 
 

I can’t even fathom how stupid you must be to still be supporting this conman. Mugs. The kind of people that if we didn’t have warning labels on things then Darwin would have taken care of them by now. 

They’re backing the wrong horse (morally and financially). I imagine that when new owners come in some people may no longer be employed.

32 minutes ago, Mr. Chow said:

Would love to hear the reasoning as to why people are still backing dc. The mind boggles 

I don’t think you’d find anybody who backs DC now.

Think it more too many people don’t want to change their routine, whether a pie and a pint at half time, attending or just doing things they normally would. DC or no DC.

I speak to many ST holders and whilst some have adjusted (won’t buy next season), there’s a lot of stubborn guys that would rather someone else make the effort and just carry on as normal.

The Boro game for example “who are the trust to tell me what games I should and shouldn’t go too”

The local journalists have stepped up and done a great job, IMHO.  They probably were restricted in what they could report previously despite knowing/suspecting some of the stuff going on behind the scenes. But the cumulative weight (and veracity) of Chansiri’s fcukery has allowed them to report on things and offer more honest views.  I’m sure they want to get back to reporting on the football side of things though!

3 minutes ago, Mac_77 said:

I don’t think you’d find anybody who backs DC now.

 

Think it more too many people don’t want to change their routine, whether a pie and a pint at half time, attending or just doing things they normally would. DC or no DC.

 

I speak to many ST holders and whilst some have adjusted (won’t buy next season), there’s a lot of stubborn guys that would rather someone else make the effort and just carry on as normal.

 

The Boro game for example “who are the trust to tell me what games I should and shouldn’t go too”

Just to add, I’m talking about the guys that plan their life (weddings, holidays, anniversaries) around whether Wednesday are playing home/away League or cup. 
 

They won't budge 

1 minute ago, Mac_77 said:

 

 

The Boro game for example “who are the trust to tell me what games I should and shouldn’t go too”

Asking not telling .....

Just now, torryowl said:

Asking not telling .....

I agree 

5 minutes ago, Mac_77 said:

I don’t think you’d find anybody who backs DC now.

 

Think it more too many people don’t want to change their routine, whether a pie and a pint at half time, attending or just doing things they normally would. DC or no DC.

 

I speak to many ST holders and whilst some have adjusted (won’t buy next season), there’s a lot of stubborn guys that would rather someone else make the effort and just carry on as normal.

 

The Boro game for example “who are the trust to tell me what games I should and shouldn’t go too”

Well, that’s Britain (the world) for you now. People see things as a personal slight, been told what to do and doing the opposite etc, rather than looking at the issue from the bigger picture/collective benefit perspective ie let’s do something together and we’ll all be better off in the long term.  Personal sacrifice does not seem to compute with people these days - what’s in it for me is the mantra. Sad times.

3 minutes ago, ChrisWaddlesMullet said:

Well, that’s Britain (the world) for you now. People see things as a personal slight, been told what to do and doing the opposite etc, rather than looking at the issue from the bigger picture/collective benefit perspective ie let’s do something together and we’ll all be better off in the long term.  Personal sacrifice does not seem to compute with people these days - what’s in it for me is the mantra. Sad times.

These guys are the lifeblood of the fan base and all credit to them. they live and breathe it. Lovely people.

They stand and slate Chansiri but asked if they’d be buying next season (26/27) you see the change as if you’re asking the unquestionable. 
 

I think people will be very disappointed if they expect a huge reduction on ST numbers next year. 
 

Everyone has a reason and theirs is usually the most valid. 

Dancing in the ballroom of the Titanic as it sinks, though.

11 hours ago, Clowne Owl said:

They get some stick but Football Heaven, in particular Rob Staton, has given excellent coverage over this whole saga and deserve praise for it.

Rob is an excellent sports journalist.