megsonstheman Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 How on earth as this imposter managed to ply his trade as a footballer at the top level? His latest calamity last night was yet another addition to his career long mishaps. He was one of the central defenders who "helped" Brazil to lose 8-0 to Germany in a world cup game. I can't believe that Chelsea signed him twice then had Arsenals pants down. Worst defender in the history of the premier league. 4
agentwalker Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 Id honestly play with 10 men then have him in the defence.
SiJ Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 I can think of much worse players...but, when he's bad, he is really, really bad. Tbf, he was brilliant for Chelsea a few years back when they won the title under Conte...though I think that was more to do with Conte and playing within a system which suited him perfectly. He's an absolute car crash in a standard back four though. Far too reckless and has zero sense of danger.
punkskaphil Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, megsonstheman said: How on earth as this imposter managed to ply his trade as a footballer at the top level? His latest calamity last night was yet another addition to his career long mishaps. He was one of the central defenders who "helped" Brazil to lose 8-0 to Germany in a world cup game. I can't believe that Chelsea signed him twice then had Arsenals pants down. Worst defender in the history of the premier league. Was that 8-0 the one where they lost 7-1..? 4
The only way is S6 Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 Didn’t Mourinho get £50m for him off PSG, while managing Chelsea? Sacre bleu 1
helmut_rooster Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, The only way is S6 said: Didn’t Mourinho get £50m for him off PSG, while managing Chelsea? Sacre bleu
Bouncing Owl Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 A defender that can’t defend - a bit like Van Allen. I’ve never rated him. Arsenal need to send him back to Chelsea this summer.
Guest Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bouncing Owl said: A defender that can’t defend - a bit like Van Allen. I’ve never rated him. Arsenal need to send him back to Chelsea this summer. We'd be a lot better if we had the Van Allen belt protecting our goal than Van Aken! Edited June 18, 2020 by Guest
SallyCinnamon Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 Bit of an overreaction. Premier League winner, Champions League winner, over 50 caps for Brazil. Fantastic ball playing defender in his day. But has always had a mistake in him. Doesn't override his achievements in the game. People forget he's 33 now, getting on a bit and way past his best. Which is why he's at this poor Arsenal side. 1
Kanye West Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 Really rated Luiz to be honest, maybe age has caught up with him in the last season or two. Always thought he’d be a better defensive mid, he’s really quite good on the ball and athletic. I think it might have been Conte at Chelsea that played him there for a while.
markg Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 Defensive midfielder in a midfield three or middle of a back three otherwise he is a liability
torryowl Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 I don't think you can have the career he's had by being the worst defender in premier league history ….
SiJ Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 He's nowhere near the worst defender in PL history. He just has a propensity to make some high profile gaffes and he's always going to be someone who stands out. He's also one of those that the media like to put the boot into. The problem is Arsenal have bought him past his best and they weren't exactly defensively solid before he arrived. He was not going to be the man to shore up that defence, particularly in a standard back four, in what is a naturally attacking team. Stick the bloke in the middle of a back three or in a holding role and you will see a different player.
Big Malc Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 Assume you’d also have to keep the ball well away from him, too? He’s been a complete clownshoes since he arrived here, let’s be honest. A defender that can’t really defend.
SiJ Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Big Malc said: Assume you’d also have to keep the ball well away from him, too? He’s been a complete clownshoes since he arrived here, let’s be honest. A defender that can’t really defend. He was in the PFA team of the year in 2016/2017. No denying his propensity to make stupid mistakes, but he's nowhere near as bad as some are making out on here.
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