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I think things like this are sometimes about taking a step back and reading between the lines. He could have come out and said "Dejphon Chansiri, times up, we're coming for you", which would have made us all feel better, but realistically isn't something he can come out and say from a legal or policy perspective. If the IFR are gunning directly for DC, they have to be a bit cleverer and more tactful about it than that. I expect that DC trying to paint a picture of the hard done to businessman and that it's all a witch hunt will be a big part of any legal defence he lodges (after all, he's only trying his best isn't he) so the IFR have to be careful about what's said around that.
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Trust Call For Full Boycott Against Middlesbrough
sheffield_dave replied to TZOwl's topic in Sheffield Wednesday Matchday
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I love that those original fliers have become one of the key faces of the whole campaign. Credit to @BrinnyOwl1867 and the group for an effective campaign. The way they were treated by some was utterly disgusting and pig ignorant at the time, and somehow looks even worse in hindsight. There will be people maybe even with a black and gold avatar on here or a scarf around their neck today who should be utterly embarrassed by it. If the IFR spend even 5 minutes reading those fliers and listening to the Trust about everything they’ve done since, they’ll get the full picture they need about the prospect of “working with” Chansiri.
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Things are going to get ugly on the pitch over the winter. The club haven’t prepared any of these lads properly for a full season of football. There’s a reason every other club in the world has 6-7 weeks of intense pre-season training with a programme of friendly matches to make sure they’re ready, and we gave this group none of that. Staking an entire season and the clubs entire future on just winging it, and no surprise tha by October it already looks like unravelling.
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Just like to say, to whoever is working at SWFC but acting on Chansiri’s behalf/supporting him (and let’s face it, you’ll definitely be on here reading this); Go f*ck yourself. You can rot in hell with the Chairman.
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I think if I were to read a full list of quotes from him that take this sort of tone at the minute, my head would literally explode off my shoulders. As angry as we all are, I think we’ve collectively forgot a lot of the full picture of just how mad this has all been, and the disrespectful sh*te he’s shovelled our way for years.
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Good for them, but it’s no longer a shield against criticism. We’re far enough into this now. “I just want to watch the football” is pathetic and spineless. Not to mention the absolute height of selfishness. People who just want their afternoon of “entertainment”. Are the players being paid properly for it? What about the staff opening the ground or serving yer pints? Who cares, doesn’t matter. I understand your point about the impact if most boycott and it doesn’t need “all”, but the “running of the club” will take it away from them, as well as everybody else. This level of sheer ignorance needs challenging and calling out, not handwaving away as people just choosing to be disengaged.
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Dyche would be another disaster waiting to happen. You can say what you want about the quality of the SPL or the sides up there but the pressure and expectation at Rangers and Celtic is possibly without rival in English football. I mean someone like Arteta can have 6 years of "building" towards winning the league and still not manage it, and be relatively safe in that job. Dyche is a good manager with a good record, but his working expectations have pretty much topped out at "massively overachieve just by staying in the league". It's just not the same. I know there's a lot of water under the bridge around Ange but Rangers need to target their version of him. Easy to forget that when Ange arrived, Celtic had just lost the title to an unbeaten Rangers and were regarded as being in transition, and I think Celtic fans were just as wary of "he's not managed anywhere of note" as Spurs fans were about his time in Scotland. But he arrived there a winner, albeit at similarly smaller leagues, and left having built on that. Rangers need someone who knows how to win. Even if that's a "lesser" standard than appointing just another guy from the EFL.
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We may be on our arse but at least we're not Blades
sheffield_dave replied to Pablo Bonvin's topic in General Football Chat
Forest got their first win after 7 (I think) then picked up steam from there. They also had Cooper, Brennan Johnson (a £50m talent a year later) and a lot of Premier League talent on loan. And needed the play-offs to go up (so not a factor for United) -
Had his business motivations and it was never philanthropy, but he undoubtedly had a genuine love for the game and I think his connections to all of his clubs were genuine. He saved us and I think his recent appearance in trying to reach out to Chansiri shows we must have repaid him with plenty of fond memories too. A proper, legitimate business mind with a genuine love of the game who knew how to provide a stabilising, progressive influence and move on. How we desperately need another of him now. RIP Milan
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We may be on our arse but at least we're not Blades
sheffield_dave replied to Pablo Bonvin's topic in General Football Chat
Said this the other day, but I think getting a result at Oxford and immediately carrying on losing makes things really interesting. I don’t think this is just a bad start. It’s clearly not as simple as Wilder going in there and getting some buy in to his bullsh*t so they get back to winning every week. There’s something wrong there. Type of thing that can snowball if you’re stacking losses in the league and sleepwalk through it being “a bad start” into something more, much like Luton and countless others over the years. -
A reminder that the players are playing for free today having missed their 5th set of wages in 7 months. The start of the season has had some positive moments and results, but today is a lot closer to how this season is going to go as a whole. Not even competitive today, rolling into the most brutal winter months of the schedule as wages keep being missed, injury and suspensions mount up etc..
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Wednesday Coventry OMDT
sheffield_dave replied to Lord Snooty's topic in Sheffield Wednesday Matchday
I don’t think it’s about convincing anymore. This far in, say watching a bunch of players who still haven’t been paid again, wondering why another set of away fans are applauding us.. it’s not about “convincing”. They’re just thick as f*ck. Not Wednesday as far as I’m concerned. -
Pitch Invasion - how many!?
sheffield_dave replied to Kevowls1's topic in Sheffield Wednesday Matchday
Watching this from your armchair is one of the protest actions many are currently taking. F*cking galaxy brain over here- 523 replies
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Pitch Invasion - how many!?
sheffield_dave replied to Kevowls1's topic in Sheffield Wednesday Matchday
Top effort every single one of you. It doesn’t come without consequence. It’s an impossible thing for others to expect, ask or demand. That’s people who have either risked their season ticket or had to wrestle with the dilemma of paying on the gate to go and do that. Not a bad word to be said about any of them. -
Pitch Invasion - how many!?
sheffield_dave replied to Kevowls1's topic in Sheffield Wednesday Matchday
All the jobsworth’s have arrived anyway so looks like all the pearl clutchers will get to see their football match today without disruption. -
What a load of absolute cack this is. a.) We had it rough for a bit but here's all the ways you're wrong and we did everything better b.) Jilted lover bit at the end about not being asked to co-operate. Who is this about again? c.) I'll tell you we understand your issues but don't you dare ruin our day out!!! Sanctimonious crap.
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Pitch Invasion - how many!?
sheffield_dave replied to Kevowls1's topic in Sheffield Wednesday Matchday
I agree. Obviously it's better for there to be mass demonstrations. My issue is that some are using "well you're not going to get 1,000 people on the pitch" or whatever as an excuse to talk down more action. To build strawman arguments against it, to try and dissuade momentum behind it. My personal view, just being honest about it, is that there are a frightening amount of our fans right now who may well say "Chansiri Out", change their profile picture to yellow and gold etc, but don't actually give as much of a sh*t about all this, or are quite as invested in seeing the back of this owner, as they think they are. Too many who talk a decent game but aren't really getting it. And I think you see it every single time a new protest idea gets brought up. My point on individuals going on the pitch is that it still has impact. It carries massive consequences for them, it's something that's hard to openly encourage, organise or tell others to do - but it does have impact. My counter to "nothing will happen with this because we won't have the numbers" is that it only takes a handful of people to take those risks to still have massive impact. -
Pitch Invasion - how many!?
sheffield_dave replied to Kevowls1's topic in Sheffield Wednesday Matchday
If 1 goes on, they get removed, then play resumes. Another goes on 5 minutes later, disrupts play, removed and play resumes. 5 minutes after that, another.. Would soon see it abandoned. It doesn't need to have 1,000 people all going on at once. If the point is to be disruptive and send a message, anywhere between 2-5 people doing it individually is just as effective. Lots of pearl clutching in this thread about the implications. Individually, sure, it's a hard thing to instruct or ask people to do because it does carry consequences.. but historically people have taken that risk for protest reasons before, or just for the fun of it. If you're concerned about the implications on the club or what the league will do then sorry but it's time to wake the f*ck up. This is a fight. Nothing the EFL can do in terms of punishments is more damaging to the club than what this parasite is already doing, and will continue to do if we stand and watch him. -
We may be on our arse but at least we're not Blades
sheffield_dave replied to Pablo Bonvin's topic in General Football Chat
He's had a soft landing as well hasn't he. Charlton, Oxford, Southampton.. Hull next. Southampton not "easy" but a Tuesday night at Bramall Lane, lengthy trip for out of form visitors, if you think you should be competing at the other end then that's a game you can't be losing. As soon as they won a game it was always going to be interesting to see if they actually turned things around, or still looked a bit cack and carried on losing games.. -
Sheffield Wednesday vs Birmingham omdt
sheffield_dave replied to Maddogbob's topic in Sheffield Wednesday Matchday
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I really like Ally McCoist but he seemed bored stiff by this entire segment. Big Rangers man, you'd think this might hit closer to home. I feel like TalkSport do a lot of circling around the headline issues without too much deeper diving than that, but they keep talking about it which is a benefit to us and it's better that they are. I didn't know or think about the issue around handing youth players professional contracts either, so credit to Jeff for raising that.