ThruThinAndThinner

It's Wednesday lunchtime and I've only just stopped laughing at the Blunts' result against Charlton. I need a glass of water. So much for the "new/old manager bounce".

To be fair to Grimsby, our fight is not their fight. They are under no obligation to help us, and nor should we expect them to boycott a game against us just because we want our chairman out. Their first loyalty is to their own club as ours is to Wednesday. If the tables were turned and we took 5 or 6 thousand to a midweek cup game at a struggling club, I'm guessing that wouldn't be an issue. They just want to support their team and enjoy their win, and I have no problem with that. We'd do the same if the situation were reversed. Our own 3,500 who turned up however .....

Me too. Although this is even worse. Or at least it already feels even worse. I'd be delighted to be proved wrong come May, but I can see us setting all sorts of embarrassing, unwanted records this season.

Given what dire straits we're in ourselves, we shouldn't laugh too hard at the Blunts' current predicament. But we can laugh a bit, and I'm going to thoroughly enjoy it for as long as it lasts. And they've got Boro next who have 3 wins out of 3 .

The big and very important difference here is that theirs is a mindless, visceral hatred for us just because we are Wednesday. There's no logic to it beyond pure primitive tribalism. Wednesday fans' hatred for Chansiri is because of what he's doing to our club, to the point that if it carries on for too much longer we might not even have a club any more.

Definitely. And going to such a horrible plastic club as well. He could have done a lot better.

Pigs have enjoyed saying "mind the gap" to us these past few seasons. Now it's our turn to gloat.

The kids stepped up tonight. That's what's important. It's going to be a long hard season but honestly, it's nights like this that give you hope. Take it one game at a time, that's all we can do. But proud to be an Owls fan tonight.

Sorry to say but it shows . Definitely a good shout getting the upgrade done. It's on another level entirely.

Massive improvement (see what I did there ). I like it a lot. Looks really well done. Don't have any ink myself but always find it interesting what others have done. Have toyed with getting a "midlife crisis" one but not taken the plunge so far.

Out with the wife yesterday afternoon so was reduced to sneaking a look at my phone to check the score every so often when she was distracted. Saw we were 1-0 up at HT and - briefly but foolishly - dared to hope. But head overcame heart and I quietly stuck to my pre-match prediction of 2-1 to them, and so it turned out. Only bit I got wrong was I thought they'd get the winner in 90+ but they did it after 87. Not far off though. It's going to be a long and painful season.

Yup. Rangers had our pants down on that one without a doubt. Doubt very much there's a clause, but would be happy to be proved wrong.

What? That many?! I admire your confidence.

Kobacki .... I had literally forgotten about him

I hated them back in the '90s but have warmed to them over the years. But not to the extent of being prepared to pay daft money to see them and engage in a virtual scrum with half a million other people all desperate for tickets. That said, I'm sure it's a great atmosphere there and also great to see other clubs' fans lining up in solidarity with us.

Just because Baz has signed doesn't mean that the underlying issues are forgotten about. People are still talking about them. It's not a zero sum, either/or situation. Fans are just happy to get a tiny bit of positive news, which has been very thin on the ground lately.

Class. Thank you. Hope you have a good season.

A true Owls legend, and undeniably the most "Wednesday" player we've had in many a long year. Cut him and he bleeds blue & white. This is fantastic news, especially with the cub in such a mess. Could this be a turning point? An omen? I mean normally I'd say that the only way to go when you're on the bones of your @rse is up. But with Channers still there who knows. Still, it's a small positive development at the end of another horrendous week.

I agree. Although a pound to a pinch of snuff says that Windass & Smith will both come back to haunt us by scoring against us when we play Wrexham and Preston. Assuming of course that our season even kicks off .....

Pato was a magnificent servant to the club, and I'm gutted (but not surprised) that we've lost him. Especially to a horrible plastic club like MK Dons. I suppose I'm going to have to dislike them a little bit less now. There's never been a more depressing time to be a Wednesday fan for as long as I can remember (which is a long time).

Yup, L1 already and in the early stages of complete freefall. And if Chansiri stays I can seriously see us ending up in the National League inside another 2 to 3 seasons. But that's the best-case scenario, working on the basis that the club will last that long and not end up like Bury.

In an alternate universe, people are saying that about us.

Well you might be able to "command" it. But do you really "need" it? Obscene on every level.

Absolutely horrendous news. Incredibly tragic circumstances, and the grief of that family is unimaginable. How do you even begin coming back from something like that? I don't follow Liverpool that closely so he was only peripherally on my radar (until today) but from what I've seen of him he was a decent player and also came across as a genuinely nice bloke, very grounded and not like a lot of the primadonnas in the game today. Tragedies like this put everything into perspective and show how unimportant football is (especially club rivalries) in the grand scheme of things. May he and his brother rest in peace and never be forgotten.

Wayne Rooney.