Horatio Hornblower

While we’re on the subject of Fruit Of The Loom, did you remember them having this logo?? I distinctly remember it having this logo with the cornucopia. Apparently it never existed….

The minute a takeover is announced the negativity towards DC will be like popping a balloon. The negativity is fuelled primarily by fear of the clubs demise. Once that fear is taken away, so with it will the strength of feeling towards DC. Everyone’s energy will be spent on improvements to the squad and infrastructure- and rightly so.

Wonder if he’ll teach us to be a dirty side?

United’s ‘bid’ will just be a cheap shot at trying to win fans back on side. If the bid had been accepted then they’d have got great value on the player but the ‘Bladesmen’ would be lapping it up. It’d be the nearest the board could get to dancing on tables singing songs about Wednesday.

For me, it’s about freedom for people to do what people want-within the law- without being vilified for doing it. This thread reminds me of Covid with the ‘pro-vaxxers’ vs the ‘anti-vaxxers’. It was a personal choice. The anger and name calling coming from the Pro-vaxxers. ‘How stupid are they? How selfish, absolute idiots…etc etc’ ‘just get a jab and it’ll sort the problem out, then we can all go back to normal’. Those who chose for their own, varied reasons, not to get vaxxed made that decision. Some say that all the effort to publicly attack the ‘anti vaxxers’ meant that those at the top weren’t under as much pressure as they perhaps could/should have been? there’s a definite similarity. Playing devils advocate, where are the fans who went last night on here being vocal criticising those who didn’t go? Why aren’t they shouting the odds and saying ‘surely winning football matches is what’s important?’ Where were you when your team needed you? We showed support for the lads which helped them win a game of football against huge odds while you lot stayed at home? I thought that if you picked and chose which games to attend then you’re a ‘part timer’? ‘Never missed a game’ used to be a base of honour worn proudly by football fans? But it turns out that because some fans think that by defunding DC that will get him out of the club, then all of the previous ways to judge a football fan is now out of the window and the new rules are that by being a Truefan you stay away? Ironic. For clarity, I didn’t go to the game tonight, I don’t believe that funding DC helps matters. I want new owners desperately. I’m deeply concerned about the future of *our* football club. But remember it is *our* football club. And that means a fan base with different backgrounds, different cultures, different religions different political stances, different mindsets and thought processes. We won’t ever agree on everything, even down to whether to go to matches or not, but we are all supporters in our own right. Some will be die-hard, some will go to simply watch a game of football, some will go without food to buy a ticket for the play offs, some will think that’s worth it and shows commitment, some will think that by going hungry in exchange for a ticket to a football match is lunacy. It’s all personal choice. But it’s that personal choice that needs to be respected. Some will say that without that respect for personal choice, by resorting to belittling people’s intelligence, calling people stupid or idiotic or ‘scabs’ because they don’t share the same opinion on a subject, that we are no better as a fanbase than the tyrannical regime that some suggest we oppose?

We’re short on defensive midfielders, would make a good Anchor Man

What people need to realise is that there’s so many different personalities, levels of interest and other factors across the fan base that makes it impossible for everyone to feel exactly the same and act in unison. Some fans have grown up in families where the mentality is that ‘if something gets bought it gets used’. So those fans who have bought season tickets will use them no matter what they think of DC. Some fans will think that it’s not the players fault and will want to support them from the stands to try and encourage the team no matter what. Some fans despise what DC is doing and will want to not attend games or put money into the club and will join organised protests. Some fans won’t like what DC is doing and be worried about the club but might not think protesting will work. Some fans won’t want to tell their young children that they aren’t going to the matches for a while due to DC. They’ll have seen their kids getting enjoyment and seeing that interest in SWFC beginning to grow and won’t want to miss out on those special times with their children, bonding over Wednesday, no matter what the state of the club on and off the pitch. The above list is obviously not exhaustive but definitely reflects some of the personality types and thought processes amongst fans. It’s an awful time for us supporters and no matter what our individual reasons for/against attending games, we all want the best for the club now and going forward. It’s essential that fans (with the same mindset as the OP) try and be open minded enough to accept the different mindsets and not turn it into a us vs them, a protestor vs a non protester, a ‘buy stuff in the ground’ vs a ‘not spend a penny until DC is gone’. What will strengthen DC’s position would be infighting amongst supporters as it can be interpreted that the squabbling is because DC still has supporters. Organise the protests etc by all means and give people the option of joining in, but resist the temptation to use it as a stick to beat other fans with who have a different mindset. Personally I think protests are a positive aslong as done in the right way, but we need to ensure that we don’t turn fan against fan anymore than we already have.

Yes mate, just needs to work on his kicking, but has stepped up well, great handling today too, made difficult to deal with balls look easy. Didn’t look phased at all. Hopefully he continues to progress as got a lot of potential.

People seem to have got so sucked in to the typical social media polar mindset of ‘hate it’ or ‘love it’ that there’s not been any mention of the change in approach. DC changed the Owl as soon as he bought the club, every decision goes through him, so he must have signed off on using the old owl for this design? But why? Is it because there’s potential new owners having an input into the design? or is it because DC has realised the home and away shirt sales are so low that he’s decided to do anything-even swallowing his pride by reverting to the old owl- to try and make the fans buy shirts? To make DC swallow his pride has to be something major and I’m not so sure that a few thousand shirt sales will make that much difference financially? Genuinely interested in people’s thoughts on this?

Danny Green enters the bingo hall…..

They’re all a rich owner would need to justify paying what many perceive as being over the odds! Money can’t buy a name, history, or a fanbase. People are missing the bigger picture when they try and value the club at what the current playing staff/stadium are worth.

What strikes me when I see those pictures is that I cannot imagine Owls and Blades being photographed like that together now. Owls and Blades stood next to each other, no mobile phones, nobody trying to goad the other sides fans into fighting for a bit of self created notoriety on social media, or to be ‘offended’ by how ‘classless’ the opposition fans were. There’s always been the rivalry, but social media has once again worked its ‘magic’ and I believe its purpose, in creating a culture where there is no middle ground, no reasoned debate, it’s a case of pick your side and hate the other, whether that be football, politics, Covid jabs etc etc Social media has turned the world into a toxic place. The 90’s weren’t perfect by a long shot, but they were far less toxic, far more inclusive and accepting of different opinions than today. I’d go back in a heartbeat.

Not going to get dragged into this, but people often make Anti-Trump statements for no other reason than to ride the main stream media portrayal that those who are Anti-Trump are more intelligent and highbrow etc than others. When in reality, and with wisdom and maturity, you learn that theres good and bad, intelligent and not so intelligent, on all sides of politics. Polar extremes are created by the media with agendas. Rather than jumping on the media bandwagon to score points, use your posting abilities on here- on the subject of SWFC- to let people judge you on your intellect and social status, if that’s what you want. We’re all Wednesday fans and bringing politics into it for no reason other than to try to appear somehow superior isn’t the best approach I don’t think

Really not sure why Trump gets so many mentions on Owlstalk? Especially when our own PM- who perhaps isn’t the yardstick for leadership etc- hardly gets a mention. Should keep politics out of it IMO. It’s bad enough being a Wednesday fan right now than dragging other countries politics into it too!!

If he had 5% of Trump’s business sense we’d be in the PL by now.