Animis

there's been zero fight from them today - that's unacceptable

team and manager have really put on a show for any new owners - absolute shambolic and spinless. Even Bannan's stood on the touch hiding. Really shocked how bad we've been

another mistake - shocking

my god - this is awful - worst derby performance I can remember.

my god this is dreadful - 3 against 2 and we still can't fashion a chance.

has their keeper had to make a save?

Ingelsson is really clumsy and has a poor first touch, often leading to a foul

Ugbo - what a fraud

0-0 was the best we could have hoped for - two really poor defensive moments put paid to that.

poor pass, just walk through and score in first 10 minutes of each half - really poor.

get Baily on - lift the crowd attacking the kop for the first 15/20 mins and we can get back into this.

can't remember many worst derby halfs than this - at home anyhow.

we're a bit thick really - other than Bannan, no one has any nouns.

I know our defenders are woeful but just how bad is Ugbo - offers nothing.

True - you'd have tie in replacement land - ecology and play areas at the old stadium like Solihull suggests, and play the 'community links' with concerts - obviously link the existing Tramlines and other events you could promote. One issue with the Park is that there's a huge Yorkshire Water storm overflow tank under part of the grass and car park area. This would be difficult to shift, but as you say not impossible to integrate.

It not just any restrictive covenants - the park is gifted to the people of Sheffield and council act as the trustees. It would be very unusual for the any part of the park to be bought by a private party.

do they suspend the trams in Manchester when the derby is played at Old Trafford?

Whilst the land is probably there, I doubt the council would entertain planning as a key element to any large public stadium would be public transport access. For this reason, I still think the 'search' areas will be on the tram and train networks.

It would make sense - I'm sure at least a couple of American parties are interested - seems football ownership and interest has moved from the middle/far East to America over the last 2/3 years.

dam those quick flippers

I agree that the stewards are unlikely to intervene, which makes the scum do it even more. We need to put up a big net across the first front rows like they do abroad. They probably won't though as it'll impede the sky camera at the back of the stand.

I agree with this - when the 'breakthrough' finally happens, getting home tickets will be as difficult as away ones at present.

I tend to agree with this - I think most fans know people they used to go to the games but have stopped. DC did a lot of damage to the next generations through the nonsense ticket prices and general anti-social behaviour. It's going to take a few years of good vibes in the club/fan relationship with positive comms, sensible and sustained ticketing prices and of course on-field success driven by the new owners investment. I agree we probably have a latent 10k, who with the above would start attending more, but it'll take years not weeks to turn around. To still have 30k fans attending the big games after what the maniac has done over 10 years is nothing short of remarkable.

The Milan model has always offered some benefit to your suggestion. The two clubs are now redeveloping further: MILAN (Reuters) - AC Milan and Inter complete acquisition of San Siro for new stadium project AC Milan and Inter Milan have teamed up to complete the acquisition of the San Siro stadium and surrounding land from the city authorities, in a further step towards demolishing the venue and building a new one, the two clubs said on Wednesday. AC Milan and Inter, owned by U.S. investment funds RedBird and Oaktree respectively, have hired architectural firms Foster + Partners and Manica to work on a new stadium with a capacity of 71,500, part of a broader redevelopment of the area with commercial and residential buildings. The old ground, which the clubs share, will be demolished except for a heritage section comprising part of its second tier. Prosecutors in Milan have opened an investigation into alleged bid-rigging in the deal, judicial sources said on Wednesday, following a complaint from another group who said they wanted to make an offer but did not have sufficient time. The complaint is not expected to block the deal. Italy is under pressure to upgrade its soccer stadiums, driven by foreign investors backing Serie A clubs and the need for more functional venues for the 2032 European Championship, which it will co-host with Turkey. Originally built in 1926, the San Siro is Italy's biggest stadium, with a capacity of nearly 76,000. It was renovated for the 1990 World Cup but lacks the facilities offered by other top European soccer venues. It also hosted live concerts by major international music stars such as Bruce Springsteen, Madonna, and Coldplay. Under the development project, San Siro, which will host the Winter Olympics opening ceremony in February, will stage AC Milan and Inter matches until the new stadium is ready nearby. First discussed in 2019, the plan to demolish San Siro and replace it with a modern facility faced opposition from politicians and local citizens' committees, and others who would like to preserve one of the temples of Italian soccer. The land transaction is backed by financing arranged by Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan as lead coordinators, alongside the clubs' banking partners Banco BPM and BPER Banca, the clubs said.