No 2 is r nilsson

There have been lots of posts on here about the improvements since Chansiri left, about the attendances and gifts from the trust, right down to the club shop, new bobble hats and better beer at the kiosks. All of this is great, and necessary. But at some point we have to look at what’s happening on the pitch (they get a free ride for only so long), and today was a day when the team really had to show up and fight for us, and they didn’t. That was my point.

On another day you can bait me on the use of metaphor on here (I’m sure I’m not the first) but I’m really just too fed up right now.

The point, which you seem to be choosing to avoid, is that to some of us putting in a gutless performance and losing 3.0 to the pigs isn’t acceptable and shrugged off because we’re still celebrating getting rid of Chansiri. Whatever good things are happening at the club (and there are many) they will never compensate for bottling the derby. Is that clear enough?

Perhaps you’re missing the point mate.

Sorry mate but this really has ruined my weekend. It’s not even the realisation of how far we’ve fallen - I simply can’t stand losing to the pigs and losing like this is tough.

Why weird? You want to keep congratulating yourself for getting rid of Chansiri all the way to the 4th division. It’s great that he’s gone, the trust did a wonderful job, but this is a football team and football teams have to win games, and especially this one. They bottled it, no plan, no proper shape, no fighting for every ball, like they used to do to us when we had a team that was miles better. Right now I don’t care about how many people went to the club shop, I just feel sick that we went down without a fight and there is no excuse for that. The honeymoon is over now.

There is no excuse for losing this game. We needed to find a way to compete and we didn’t. We had to stop them playing, win the second balls, stay tight, win personal battles - win didn’t do this, and there are no excuses for not doing this. We lost 3.0 at home to the pigs, but it’s ok because the administrator’s an Owls fan and we’ve got new bobble hats in the shop - bullish.t. That was a disgrace, top to bottom. No excuses.

Wilson’s job was to coach and set the team up to win matches and improve the squad. He failed. Di Canio’s job was to create and score goals, and he did that, often with jaw dropping style. As has been said on here, Wilson should not have got the job. Maybe not Danny’s fault, of course he wanted the job, but at the time there were much better people.

True, but didn’t Man U fans watch an idiot win the title after a one year ban?

An idiot who was an incredible footballer - there are lots of them. We had a manager who couldn’t manage idiots. West Ham looked after him and had the idiot scoring goals. We needed a man who could manage idiots who are brilliant, make you wake up excited about going to the game , who keep you in the Premier League and make you not care whether or not he’s an idiot because you’re just going to watch the football, not debating morality.

I went absolutely mental when this went in. The anger at what that Arsenal team did to us, not just that match but over the years, the finals, the tackle on Hirst and all the bullying and cheating. I expected a ban but the way the board sold Di Canio out was proper cowardice and self interest by Dave Richards. When you look at some of the sacrifices made over the past year by fans it really puts that spineless board into perspective.

The irony here is that if the idiot chairman had taken the chipped down offer instead of throwing his toys out of the pram he’d probably still be the chairman and we’d have had a new coach in the second half of the season with his heart in the game, and we may have hit the play-offs. DR’s attitude wasn’t totally professional, which was disappointing (even though I’m still a big fan of his) but, wow, that idiot Chansiri really was the architect of his own downfall.

I think his debut was v Arsenal at home in a 1.1 draw. He was 18. I went to Everton away that year when we won 1.0 and he was superb. Not sure why he didn’t kick on. Amazing talent as a kid.

I went to this one. Played football in the morning against a Preston representative team (no idea who) and they gave us tickets, but on their end. A steward kindly led us all round the pitch when some of their supporters worked out that we weren’t supporting Preston. I have a memory that the pitch was artificial but I’m not sure.

Brilliant.

Still makes me laugh. Love it. Let’s have them on here again.

I don’t have Chansir’s name on my shirt but I put it on for the first time in ages today and remembered it has his badge on it. It felt totally wrong. I don’t want any trace of him on the shirt. The 70s owl was always a symbol of emerging from the 70s, the BDM, beating Man U, and all the other proud moments of supporting this club.

I was there but too young to understand why Millwall fans were on our end when we were playing Charlton. I think I was just upset at the result. The cup seemed to mean more back then.

Please continue to press home this message. He needs to understand that he is completely isolated, and to feel it. He has no voice and no status.

I’ve posted the same thing a few times but worth another post. In 30 years going to games with wife and 5 mixed race children (2 now grown up) I’ve never once experienced any racism, home or away. I’m sure it happens and it’s pathetic but it must be just the occasional idiot.

When power is given to the regulator the EFL will finally be exposed to scrutiny as a self-interested members’ club. There have been a few exceptions like Reading but way too many clubs have been allowed to fall or suffer greatly. Clive is doing a wonderful job showing the EFL to the world as it really is, which may not do us any good right now but it opens the door for a regulator with real powers, which is long overdue.

If it is Textor then he’s on record as saying that he wants to develop an integrated player development structure across a few clubs in different countries and that he was frustrated that Palace didn’t support his plans well enough with this. If he appoints a technical director to look at this (as well someone to run the club) then he may not be perfect but that’s got to be a huge step forwards

If a group plans to look at this I would join them, assuming the model was right. I know a few others who would also. The trust seems to have done a lot of the dd already. Maybe they could pull an interested group together.

I agree the club needs to be sustainable, but the club is able to trade as a going concern only because. Chansiri agreed in the accounts to cover the losses. This creates an obligation that he has to fulfil, but has failed to.

Yes the threats worked in the end. It’s more difficult for us because we don’t have an obvious buyer yet, and all the loans and the ground sale is a mess.