SouthernOwl24

Makes sense now as to why he wanted the corporate areas paid for so quickly. He knew about this a couple of weeks ago tired to rectify it quickly which again come across as desparate. He has nothing to his name. He needs to go. I would rather have admin which should hopefully give the USA guys a cheaper buy in leaving more money to spend on club? Disgraceful.

I think the same. The top teams play to the same template. Zero flair or desire to take people on. Just pass it around and be patient. Then when something good happens VAR intervenes and spoils it. When there was talk of the Super league I wish this would have happened and get rid of the 'big' teams. I suppose it wouldn't have taken long before there would be a new set of big teams but at least this would have taken a while with an initial level playing field. Right now what is the point in getting to the Prem from an SWFC standpoint. We will go down and the best we could ever hope for maybe around 8th position after years and years of building. Its not fun losing every week. I have a mate at work who supports Stoke. Much prefers the unpredictability of the Championship to their prem years which became the same. They knew who they would lose to and knew who they could get points off. Another issue is parachute payments now shutting out teams in the Championship as the relegated teams have a significant head start. So does this domino for League one the place to be for proper football and a bit more of a level playing field? The lower down you get the better the actual football as a game is albeit low on quality. Players take players on, no VAR, unpredictable, terrible refs for talking points, playoffs etc. I go and watch non league every now and again and the games are brilliant with hard tackles and players trying skill etc. Beer in a stand with no seats and only costs £10 to get in.

Just enjoy it whilst were there. Brilliant to tell people were top of the league even if its tongue in cheek. I genuinely think we are top 6 contenders. Think we played really well against Plymouth and our second strong against Hull are clearly on the same page. We play together and the fans will help us as well. Watching the Plymouth game I think this is the best I have seen us play post 2000. They had no idea what to do with the pace and the passing in their third it was relentless and the score should have been higher. If we can keep this up with the second 11 waiting and knowing their jobs when injuries arise we will be top 6. Sunderland will be a very good test as they are a much better opponent than Plymouth, who will struggle under Rooney, to see how good we actually are.

Stevie May. We sold Antonio and he was the replacement in a way. Antonio was everyones favourite and was always more than likely going onto better things but the signing that covered this up didnt fill me with much hope. Fans were so happy when he signed and I think I was just bitter we lost Antonio. Gary Hooper on the other hand I was 1000% wrong. Thought he was looking for high wages and was a lazy footballer. I actually now think he is the classiest striker we have had since 2000 - possibly longer. He had so much quality.

That isnt how supply/demand and business works though. I had a membership around 10 years ago and made money it with discount in shop and money off tickets. Plus having the benefit of a priority which worked for me. These 'perks' cost money and the club have a right to try and sell this to make some additional revenue. If the game is more important I expect to pay slightly more and I have no problem doing so as its more interesting than your average match. The club again have a right to benefit from this (which should all go back into the team). If we get to a quarter final I am happy to pay £30 for example over the usual £25 as its important and we would have a full house. I love the club but dont expect everything at one price. For nothing games I expect to pay less and for more important games a bit more. Just my opinion on it. Imagine having one flat rate and we have a dead rubber end of season - it would deter people. However if its cheaper than your average match there would be a section willing to turn up.

I voted no for a few reasons. The current way we do it is shocking but done more simply could work well. As fans we have a right not to overpay but as a business SWFC have a right to make a bit more money on top for bigger or more important games (Not using the current pricing). For example 3 categories - A/B/C - most games set at price rate B. Early Cup games should be CAT C. Should we get further in the cup we can rise up the categories as demand increases which I think most fans would expect as the ground gets fuller. My sort of pricing would roughly be A- £30 B-£25 C-£20 (full paying adults) Come end of season the category can change dependent on the importance. If its a nothing end of season game then Cat C for the last couple of matches - if were fighting for something then Cat A. Majority of first 36 league games will be Cat B for simplicity. Concessions and children should still be far more cost effective. Children under 11 flat rate £1 a game. Concessions 50% off the above (or more). I also think the membership works for some fans. I like the early bird phase on ST as it will give an indication of income and what we can spend. But it should be one extended early bird - Jan- March then just normal prices. So i do think categories, phases and memberships can work for both the club and the fans. However, our chairman has made it all so complicated I can understand why fans are completely switched off to it.

The Southern clubs also have larger areas to get their talent from as that is pretty much it along South Coast for the 'bigger clubs' There are far more bigger clubs up North fighting for talent. Players may prefer playing down South too. There were a lot of stories about players picking London clubs over Northern clubs. Im not saying these two reasons are the only reasons as Brighton is extremely well run (annoyingly) but would probably have a factor in later development or convincing players to join. Nice to see another Worthing Owl!!

Have thought our corners have been terrible for ages. During play BB can pinpoint a pass but on set pieces his kicking seems really weak. Love BB think hes great but corners are shocking - he cannot seem to get the height. Then when he went off the other game Vaulks (I think) was on them and he was worse. I actually thought the two/ three near post corners from Vaulks was a ploy to get Plymouth to commit to that corner freeing up space for a corner later on but that seems so farfetched. Need to keep it simple in my opinion - all defenders around 8 yards out and stick it in the middle. After we master the simple ones lets go for the complicated ones. Change corner taker - someone on here mentioned Johnson which could be a good idea but not seen him.

I understand what you are saying. We have been fighting for the last 20+ odd games and the mentality is fight for everything. This has given us an advantage over the likes of Stoke, Millwall etc as they have been falling into it over the last few games and mentally would be low on confidence. We have had to build a siege mentality and fighting spirit for a long time something we will have until we are secure.

Really like Ugbo and Poveda. Unfortunately we have put them in the shop window. We have no chance of signing Ugbo without a fee which is really frustrating. Ugbo will probably end up at a top six chasing side for a decent fee. For me Poveda has the ability to play for a promotion/ top six chasing team and I think his contract expires end of this season? We have a chance as he wouldn't need to move home and we could possibly offer a decent wage and if Röhl stays he may see the light that we can turn this around and become a competitive team next year if we stay up. Wish we could get both as they are fantastic and exciting to watch but we wont pay a fee for anyone so we need to enjoy Ugbo while we can. Make Poveda a priority on a decent contract.

exactly this. Im not bothered currently about style as I just want to win. But during Moore's reign I wanted to be entertained even though we won majority I found it dull.

Gillingham away 2003 lost 4-1 - felt like my feet froze to the ground. Rearranged fixture from memory.

Strange time for a statement and to be honest its worrying if it is true. Looks as though unless we get a new owner its curtains for us as a club. Football in lower leagues is unsustainable with wages. If the core 20K paid £20 we would be a lower -mid league one team. Fans wouldn't be happy with this. I feel indifferent on the statement but is is as a whole so unprofessional and egotistical. I don't like that fans contact his family - get a life its disgusting. If it were my personal wealth declining constantly I would also pull out of more financial injection and look to sell. As a club without him (or a new owner) we are unsustainable in the current model as the fans do not contribute enough money to the model. Not blaming the fans just talking about financially. I think our fans are amazing but if we lower prices and try to cut our cloth accordingly (unless we have a lucky season or some good youth prospects come though) we would be a lot lower.

Why not give him a go. The fans would 'allow' mistakes as he is new and young to the set up and were all desparate for someone form the academy to succeed. Start him - if he gets a goal or creates some chances this would do the world of good for his personal confidence. If he scores it ups his value significantly and hopefully we can finally sell a decent prospect for serious money.

Writing has been on the wall since pre season. The players did nothing to convince me in the interviews they liked his style and were enjoying training. It was all just lip service. They kept saying it will take getting used to etc Munoz is finished and although he has been dealt a poor hand by DC, he has also made several mistakes himself. 1) bottling his preferred style 2) not keeping the bulk of promotion squad together and making odd tactical decisions in desperation 3) hes made it clear that he doesn't want Marvin Johnson - why - that was his managerial decision to freeze him out and make a scapegoat. The player could be useful to us. Did this ruin squad atmosphere/ cohesion? 4) the signings - loan signings look decent but we didnt improve our squad at all. If it is to be believed that Munoz does have a part to play in signings (possibly not) then he should not be trusted with any budget. This will not improve under him and a win against Boro will not change that. The squad are not buying into what he is doing and there has been little improvement since he has taken over. Pre Season rubbish and this season rubbish. On the other hand - who would want to work under DC? He did mess this up with late signings etc and clearly employed the wrong candidate because he got Watford promoted with a fantastic team. How naive can you be to not see this. Both need to go. As a fan I've already switched off this season - we will go down without a whimper. How miserable is that only a few games in.

Relegation nailed on so far. We needed 8 or so players that are better than our current 11 through the door to compete with the quality. So far the two signings seem unknown/ underwhelming. We cannot just buy squad players as the squad we currently have need huge improvements and are not good enough for week in / week out quality football. The issue with 8 quality player is the cost. You would need a war chest of £30M upwards to get 8 first teamers through the door which we don't have. So bargain basement and loans which promotes risk and points to relegation. Were in for a long season and it will be painful - just hoping we can get lucky with a freebie who finds form or unearth a gem from the loan market and we stay up.

Some people have commented but something very very easily implemented was something I had seen at Fulham away. Currently on the KOP getting a drink at HT requires leaving at around 40 mins and there is still a queue. If you join the queue after the HT whistle you wont get served. Putting in fast taps will help but the space there is far too small. Needs completely opening up. However, at Fulham away they had people serving drinks on karts. One man karts walking around the away enclosure for fast drinking. They have around 4-6 of these karts as well as the bar. They then had 1-2 runners bringing kegs out. If we replicated this with 5 karts (2 kegs per kart per game at £5 a pint you could generate around £285,000 revenue from this over a season if there are 5 karts in each stand. The main bars would lose some revenue but it wouldn't be a like for like loss because: 1) the people who don't bother at HT like me - will now bother due to quick queuing. 2) I may go earlier to the game if I can get served quickly 3) may even fit in two at half time (I drink quickly) Just from me alone you could get anywhere from 2-5 pints additional from someone who may buy one if the queue is short as it is now. Beer has a 200-300% mark up so huge profits to be made from something so simple. These karts will cost next to to nothing to implement too and it is all about efficiency making it easy for fans to spend money.

We have had relatively high prices since he came in. Attendances were similar to that before he came in. I am not saying it doesn't have an effect but not in the numbers that people think. You have 1,000 POTD at £35 generating £35,000 you would need 1,400 fans at £25 which would never happen. You would never get 1,400 fans for every 1,000 at the two different rates. Realistically you would see an increase in fan numbers the cheaper tickets but nowhere near a 40% increase. Would be more around 1,100 at the £25 rate. I don't like the prices but it will not stop me going. However i only go to a small handful a year due to location.

Completely understand our pricing is high but we cannot rely on parachute payments and have to get the money through the door to help with FFP and wages. When we say other clubs are cheaper - look at the mess these clubs are in! Unless they have been in the PL or on parachute payments they are in deep trouble with FFP or financially. Recently looking at clubs like: Cardiff, QPR, Reading, Wigan, Blackpool, Derby, Stoke (imminently), West Brom, Birmingham, Coventry. Probably a lot more in Championship. They are all in trouble and have cheaper tickets. We have been there and to stay afloat we would need to charge more. Its rubbish as everyone's bills going up but I cannot understand how football is still going with the player wages to be competitive. If we spent within our means we would be an average to good League one team with cheaper tickets that could only take advantage when other teams financially mess up. To counteract there are teams like Brighton, Brentford, Luton but these are fewer and far between than the teams in trouble. Bournemouth and Sheff Utd got lucky as they were very close to financial issues without PL. I am not siding with DC on this as commercially we are shocking and possibly one of worst in league for this?? If anyone has numbers that would be great to see. But an average of 21K fans at £500 per head only brings in £10.5M which is nowhere near enough to be competitive in this league.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sheffield-wednesday/besucherzahlenentwicklung/verein/1035 Out of all the pricing structures we have had over the last 30 years which one do you think brought in the most bums on seat?? As a fan base our ground is too big for us and has been for years aside form the one offs.

I don't really think by making the adults tickets cheaper on a regular basis it would consistently bring in thousands more. When we have the cheaper days it works because its an advertised one off. To get the casual fan to POTD for most home games will not happen. Paying £30 an adult seems OK to me considering the teams we will play next year and the high quality. You also have to think income for the club. If we have 5,000 fans POTD at £30 that generates £150K in revenue. We would need 7,500 fans at £20. Looking at average attendances all the way back to PL we haven't ever broken 30K average. Last time was 90/91 but I love how people on here blame DC on prices etc. Its been cheap in the top league and we still average a similar amount of fans due to the die hard fans. Why risk the revenue once the casual fan has had their fill. FYI I am a casual fan living so far away. However, making kids tickets cheap would be the way forward. £5 a kid would entice the adults to bring their children and hopefully they catch the bug. Or for every POTD adult purchased you can have a child's ticket offered for £1 or something like that.

You guys have gone way over the top here. Love the high and mighty attitude you have. The earlier comments about weight, appearance and something about dieing was way OTT because someone stood up yet your all offended because they called you miserable *****! need to grow up. Saw someone say on a different thread they should have out a boot through him etc. just crazy and pathetic to be honest. this same Dan in the Picture helped a worse for wear fan at half time and helped stewards lift a fan up and move him. we won let’s move on. Some fans prefer standing and some sitting it won’t change but it does call out for more safe standing to be made available I think which would solve issues

I would have stood no issue. I like and prefer standing due to nerves. I wouldn’t sit if I don’t have to but yesterday we did. standing at games since I was a young kid. Never known it to be an issue like this and when I was a kid it was the norm then. they got what I could hear as good as they got as they were getting shouted at too

No you’ve missed it again. You cannot condemn someone for standing all game if you yourself stand at the good bits. It is the same thing as you will block the view of the person behind. don’t be a hypocrite and condemn people for standing when you do it yourself blocking peoples views.

So to prove my point you stood for both first half goals and restricted his view for 2 goals before you moved. Don’t be a hypocrite just because it’s not full game doesn’t mean you can then Restrict the view of the best bits. Hopefully I’m getting through to you. seems selfish of you now for taking the two goals away from him and left him with the boring bits (although there were none that night)