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I havent said rafa didnt do a good job at the toon, anyone who keeps them up under ashley has done great, i expect bruce will do the same. But they Wasnt solid mid table at all. Last 2 seasons theyve been crap in bottom 5 or 6 till good runs catapulted them up there later in season. Matteo won champos league with chelsea but was an absolute car crash at villa and bruce had to sort out his mess.. Point being, winning champos league or not is irrelevant when ur at a club like villa or toon, its what can you do at that level. And im saying the gap is nowhere near as big as the mostly dim geordies think it is. Im right, whether or not you understand it is totally irrelevant.

I dont think rafa is as good as the geordies make out. Nor is bruce as bad as they say. The only comparitive jobs theyve had is rafa at newcastle an stevethenőb at sunderland and if u look they are similar finishes.. about 10th to 13th from memory. Rafa from the champ is 1 from 1 but with that squad and all that money bruce would have got them up that year easy without the brighton keeper having to drop one in his net last min to hand them the title in a poor league when we was crap an we finished fourth. Would rafa have got the 4 promotions bruce did? Probably not. But then bruce probably wouldnt win the champos league if he were at man u. Diff type of managers. But at a club like newcastle, much of a muchness i reckon.

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thing going for Holloway imo is that hes better with experienced pro's than he is with youngsters, and, with the way weve kept players this last few years, even with this freshen up weve had, its still full of older players who have been here a while. Holloway would be a great fit. i would be well happy with it.

As other posters have said, he became rubbish once he moved upfield. While a loan may be a decent idea to improve him, id rather he improves while with us cos hes miles better than fox already. Yes he got caught out at times. But as a young lad under jos i can forgive him for that.

Already proved last season that he is well capable so thats wrong!

Everyone saying they wont use sports direct anymore.. I never do. But i think ill start now, cut a few holes on germents. Atomiser of bleach as walking past the rails. Then take a big trolley full of chavvy poo to the till, wait till she rings it in then ill ask if 'fat băštard ashley owns this establishment' and when they say yeah im just gonna tell them i dont fůćkin want it and walk off. Actually ill do it this arvo and record it on my phone for your pleasure... laterz.

Well his dad said he wanted steve to manage the toon, so hell get no stick from me. Cos his dad will know hes got it wont he! Shuda főőking took it on the 2 occasions he had the chance to while his dad was alive ffs. Doin it now is takin the pïśs in my book.

Id prefer an unknown foreign appointment to most of the dross in the betting. At least i dont know that hes crap yet. So would have a few early games with abit of hope. Can we have Loovens on the next poll please. I dont know how good a manager he would be, but i know he would have the dressing room and he wouldnt push players to the side. I also know he would be busting a gut to do well in the job hes in, rather than trying to put himself about elsewhere. Think about it. If we failed with GL at least we would all know that its cos we wasnt good enough. Half the time with these cretins with big egos clubs fail cos its rotton inside. We ant got the spare cash to leave talent out for non footy reasons, would never happen with Loovens. Wrong move by DC now and the players will be deflated b4 we even start. Knőbs seem to be getting top jobs everywhere atm. Bojo for pm. Trump as president and bruce at the toon for starters. Lets buck that trend and appoint a nice guy. What we would lose in experience of management we would gain in knowledge of our players and club. Risky as hell and it could easy go wrong. But looking at the various lists so far i only see it going wrong with those names anyway. The gary monk story from boro scares me. Theyre all mercenary bàs××rds arent they. Has there ever been so many crap managers about? Vote Loovens.

Well its paranoia to you but only cos u dont agree. Maybe he has a degree in psycho stuff and is just way more perceptive than you? Tbf you may well be reyt that all the stuff bruce said was meant to be complementary, footy folk can be a bit dim after all, but dont discount KIS89 post out of hand, There could easy be truth in his opinion. 50/50 for me. SB could have meant either, but whoevers wrong certainly aint 'paranoid'

Thinking about it... loovens has just had a season in L1, he'll know a few rough diamonds. You never know, he might be able to fill the gaps with young players we could actually make a profit on - radical i know! Yeah im in. So much so that i am gonna turn into how siminiac owl behaves regarding meggo!! Come on DC u know it make sense. Loovens for manager.

Well said. Didnt know loovens had done his badges, or maybe i did but i forgot! Anyway, Clubs often go for the opposite of the last man dont they. For instance from youth to experience or from a gobby stroppy guy to a cool calm guy. Point im making is DC will be hurt by what has happened, so if his thought is now loyalty, it wouldnt surprise me if DC was to give loovens a thought. If it did happen, we would be missing certain things, experience, know how, Contacts, etc etc etc. But he would certainly have the dressing room, an thats half the battle. With a more balanced squad thats ready to go (if the SB thing happened 3 wks later) then i could see Loovens doing a good job. But with 'this' squad and much wheeling and dealing still to be done hes probably not the right fit.. Having said that I personally would love to see it. Certainly be more interesting than seeing some guy with proven failures who i dont rate at all get the job.

Well slightly diff' in as much as if someone said something on radio (in this case alladyce) then they actually said it.. in print its 50/50 at best if words were even said.

Does anyone know, Is the alladyce interview from talk sport still available online? Would be good to know exactly what was said? Is it true he said he turned it down as he knew his mate Bruce wanted it badly?

That goes against what SB said in his interview. Almost the opposite anyway.

No im not thinkin just go. Im thinking stay until weve got our money, all of it. Were always getting walked over. Never get proper money for anyone.. at some point this has to change. What better time to start than wiv that knőb ashley. If bruce is in an awkward limbo in the meantime, good. I mean, the cheek of it with all this money sloshing around in the prem. An they think they can just nick the manager without paying the coin! Bruce is a tősspøt ah he knows our financials yet he'd happily fôők off without us getting our dues. Think again. U want our manager we want ur money. Well done DC.

Not quite true that tho is it. Its not his one and only chance, its his 3rd. He føøkd the first two up himself.

Stendal, Paul cook, jose mourinho, Id take any of them 3. Or that little man whos southgates no'2. Id av im n all. Dont want hughton or terry or avb or any of dem crap ones trotted out like rowett or monk. Nor that aidy fella that embarrassed the nation wiv de u21s. Has loovens took his badges yet? Int many good uns about is there. Lets give it to a rookie for a laugh.. that leroy rosenior guy has lots of refreshing stuff to say. Just giv it him for a month, c how he goes. If he does crap get guru in for a month till loovens gets his badges n that init. Sorrrted perrrryyyy.

Dunno about anyone else, but once you decide u want to move house, it cant come quickly enough and the house ur in bugs the főők outa ya. Same wiv a car init, once uv seen ur new one ur current one is poo. Point being thats where SB will be at now. May well be at lincoln tomoz but beyond that i just cant see it. Loving DC for putting a sharp squeeze on mind. Page 250 tho!

Ive loved the hairy porker pigs thread. Both reading and posting in it for the last year. Its a popular thread init. I think its on p252. So i reckon the difinitive answer on bruce will come in here on p252. Not long now! How longs this thread been going? Avout 3 days init? And like a sad get ive read them all!

Imagine training though. Awwwwkward! Was gonna say i really hope chansiri plays hard ball, but he always does doesnt he. Good. If sky was right saying £1m hed be gone by now. More likely nixon is right at closer to £5m, especially wen u add in all the backroom staff too, and NO WAY will ashley pay that. Not so sure hell end up at toon. But not sure hell stay either could end up at neither.

It feels like hes going atm but how many times have we seen it look for all money that a manager is going somewhere, only for someone no one even mentioned to all of a sudden be given the job? Loads of times. Lets hope that happens again. Ive got a really good feeling for bruce at swfc. I think he is the man to take us up... if hes here!

the way i see it is, Ashley doesnt pay compo. Chansiri doesnt do cheap compo. just cant see them agreeing a deal. only way he goes is if he walks and it gets messy imo. in thinking SB is a smokescreen for someone else.

or is SB the only one that does want it?

£4m in compo and £14M for Adam Reach.