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The 'soulless bowl' new ground debate
Umeeksk replied to @owlstalk's topic in Sheffield Wednesday Matchday
I do love Hillsborough's character, and even if (as we probably need to) we were to rebuild three sides of it over the next decade or so, it would still be Hillsborough. It would be sad for the city to lose a site that's been hosting football since 1899, and it's not like anyone would build anything exciting or culturally enriching in its place. Anyway - regardless of whatever else we do, I'd want us to keep the clock and finial from the current South Stand. That clock is a 120+-year-old piece of football history and predates the entire stadium - it came with us from Olive Grove! -
Membership has always given a flat discount per match rather than a percentage off, hasn't it? This is just consistent with how it currently works. £5 off per match.
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Let's Get The Scrubbers Of S2 Sold Out!
Umeeksk replied to BIG D's topic in Sheffield Wednesday Matchday
Should be a thing that the new owner has an eye to fixing in any refresh of the ground, this. Particularly as we all know the West Stand needs a complete rebuild. We need to be able to host the likes of Sunderland on a Saturday and also the likes of Exeter in midweek. It's daft that we have to put the latter in a cavernous space like the West Stand Upper and means we almost never get to use our whole stadium. -
The biggest creditor is Chansiri who is widely rumoured to have wanted to retain a minority stake in the club as part of any sale. So he probably DOES want "maybes and possibles" - a chance of some upside that means maybe he loses a bit less money in the end. (HMRC no, they'll want the cash they're owed. Any other clubs, players and agents we owe money to, we'll have to pay back in full. Are there even any other significant creditors that don't fall into one of those categories?) Also, the administrators wouldn't have to be a party to any contract that had future payments in it. That's a contract between the buyer and the other parties involved.
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Well said. I was going to make a similar point. I would be surprised if all the bids for the club are a single upfront cash payment. Some of them might involve quite a complex schedule of future payments and bonuses. At that point there's no objective "highest offer" because it requires predicting the future, and putting a present value on each offer is something the administrators' professional judgement can influence - as long as they're assessing every bid against the same criteria and in good faith. The administrators' judgement of who they think will pass the EFL's "fit and proper" test is somewhat subjective too, and might be stricter than normal given the EFL has one eye on aligning their decisions with the new regulator. So while the administrators are acting in the best interests of the creditors, they do have some wiggle room to make sure that the new owner is also a credible buyer with a credible plan for the club. We're actually lucky, because if it was still Chansiri selling the club it would be his judgement instead of Begbies Traynor, and we've seen how well that has worked out over the last ten years!
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Considering that 27k of that is in the home end, it's cracking support!
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Norwich City match could have MONUMENTAL consequences
Umeeksk replied to @owlstalk's topic in Sheffield Wednesday Matchday
If you think rich folks don't make decisions based on emotions then I have a few things to teach you about human nature! They're not walking calculators. They'll care about how buying the club makes them feel, and they'll use gut intuition as well as hard numbers to decide how much they're willing to bid for us. -
NORWICH GAME - Let's get Norwich sold out now!
Umeeksk replied to The_Ghost_Of_91's topic in Sheffield Wednesday Matchday
I think the point of cheaper tickets is to make it more affordable for new or casual fans and get them into the habit of going. The issue with Chansiri raising prices again and again wasn't that it hurt total revenue in the short term - if it did that, he'd have stopped doing it. The issue is that he was squeezing a dwindling number of fans for every last penny they could afford just to get into the ground. I've long said that the cheapest tickets should be cheaper (especially for students, kids, young families, etc.), the most expensive should be more expensive, and there should be more and better ways for people to spend longer in the ground and spend more money on the day. -
NORWICH GAME - Let's get Norwich sold out now!
Umeeksk replied to The_Ghost_Of_91's topic in Sheffield Wednesday Matchday
Right. I'm going to do my best Delia impression here. Obsessing about the total attendance and blaming our fans for it is really daft - especially when the biggest factor dragging it down is how many (or few) Norwich are bringing. Seriously. Take a big breath in. Hold it. Breathe out. Done that? Now focus on what we can do, which is to make this match a celebration and show everyone in football what's so special about Sheffield Wednesday. Celebrate who we are - still together after one man spent ten years trying to break us. Celebrate that we humiliated Chansiri and - right now in this moment - we have real Wednesday fans deciding what's best for the future of the club. Celebrate that we have something to look forward to again. Celebrate that there's twenty five thousand of us who'll turn up on a Wednesday night in November even if we're nailed on to be relegated. Or more. Tell everyone. Bring your mates. Have a party. Most importantly, spend 90+ minutes making some chuffin' noise and (hopefully) celebrate that first home win of the season. Let's be 'avin you -
I do care much more about the competence of the new owners than about how much cash they're prepared to throw at us. If Chansiri had brought in a CEO and directors who knew the game and had a plan to modernise the club and just let them spend his money instead, we'd probably be in the Premier League with facilities to match. Can we get someone with money and brains this time? That's the dream.
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I'm surprised the ref didn't insist on this.
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Was just thinking this. I think we're in the weird situation where any of our three kits would clash with WBA's home one!
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NORWICH GAME - Let's get Norwich sold out now!
Umeeksk replied to The_Ghost_Of_91's topic in Sheffield Wednesday Matchday
If I'd waited five minutes I could have quoted these numbers instead! Over a thousand sold today is smashing work. -
NORWICH GAME - Let's get Norwich sold out now!
Umeeksk replied to The_Ghost_Of_91's topic in Sheffield Wednesday Matchday
Please keep the updates coming! I'm baffled that anyone is complaining about these numbers. Regardless of whether we sell every last seat, this is already a turnout to be proud of. I for one have been enjoying the remarkable things my fellow Wednesdayites have been doing for the club over the last week and I'm going to keep doing just that, thanks! -
The South Stand / Grandstand is fine for a good few years yet. It surely just needs to be refurbished internally. It's the other three that need either replacing or major structural changes.
