FlyingOwl

I imagine the outcome of the charges is being delayed because the EFL need to give enough chances to hear from the illusive Dejphon himself. Though I've heard we may hear something re: points deductions this month.

It'll be less than 20 - if any at all.

Bite 'em

Ernie

Will win Player of the Season by a landslide.

Result doesn't matter Just more experience for the young talent.

Left Unsold - 10, 338 Still great numbers, but still left BAFFLED as to how even 138 tickets have been sold in two days. Who has seen the news in the last 48 hours and thought...yeah...i'll have some of that.

NORTH (£41) - 2198 SOUTH £46 - 1631 GRANDSTAND £38 - 1108 KOP £36 - 5401

Think this is because we'd just beaten Portsmouth & Yan made a point of saying it's always nice to win at Fratton Park.

& yet he's survived multiple managers/ownerships/eras/leagues. He's always fit. He can & will fill in multiple positions. He's a leader in the dressing room. I also disagree on his best season. He won POTY in 2013/14 season ffs. There's a reason he's been a constant. Yes, we're now probably at a stage of beggars can't be choosers - but it would genuinely be a real shame if Liam didn't finish his career here, regardless of our current squad state making him a necessity. As well as that, in an era when we're trying to blood through youngsters...having Liam Palmer around them is invaluable in terms of giving them a proper role model.

Carlos Carvalhal > Danny Röhl

He's come in during an impossible situation, doing his best. Could have easily told us to bugger off. Really not a fair thread. Is he Pierce Charles? No. Does it matter? Also no. would we have lost today with Buffon in net? Probably.

I'm really not arguing I'm just a fan saying how it's come across to me. If it's come across to me a bit negatively, it'll come across to others the same. And we can't afford for groups organising protests to come across negatively.

But I'm not saying splintering off as a negative, per say? I'm actually agreeing with you? Perhaps splintering is the wrong word, I just can't think of an alternative. I'm just saying if they're doing it, for the reason of which you say (doing things the trust can't) - then be clear on that, and have a specific point to whatever is organised going forward. In terms of egos, my worry is that this failed attempt will only come across as ego getting in the way of an actually well organised effort.

Then my advice to them would be to actually plan something worth following for the section of fans who want something radical that the trust will never be able to back, ie: broaching the pitch, or a sit in after the game, whatever. Teddies wasn't it, and they had enough people (myself included) telling them days ago that the SCH wouldn't be able to accept them as a donations. I'm trying my best to be constructive. There needs to be a specific reason for them splintering off slightly, like you said.