Tamworthowl

DC could change the process as you suggest. He could also, but unlikely, do it without warning. But on what we do know at this time, is that not buying in the early bird phase will not lose you your seat. What I think is more likely is that Chansiri will offer lower early bird prices to try to tempt renewals.

Agreed. The Trust has published some absolute poo in recent times, but this letter is written by someone who not only knows the subject, but also knows how to ask difficult questions. A combination of technical, legal, commercial, expertise. Quite impressive. Hope the Trust continues keeps the knee jerk reactions under control.

If you don’t renew at Early Bird, your seat will be reserved (as per previous seasons) until general sale which is usually July(?). The only way to lose your seats is if DC is in charge next July/August and you haven’t renewed. If he’s still here, will you renew? Will you need your current seats? If you can’t keep away, I think you need to bite the bullet and pay Chansiri’s summer prices. Personally, if he is still around, I won’t be renewing at all. If/when a new owner comes in, I expect that they will have a renewal phase, possibly at or near EB prices, and anyone can grab their existing seats at this time. Even if a new owner comes in a bit later, say October next season, a sudden upsurge in (partial) STs might be expected, but you’d be unlucky if your specific seat had gone, because, let be clear here, there’s going to be a massive slump in season ticket sales for 26/27.

Great opportunity for those boycotting the ground completely to provide visible demonstration that they’re part of the protest. And those wanting to protest at the ground can protest and support the team.

No idea, but there was a lot of chatter last autumn about STs not being worth it due to the disruption. We are known for having a large proportion of travelling fans, so I think the effect on us could be greater than elsewhere.. Perhaps you could do some analysis for us?

Most of this reduction will be due to fixture chaos caused by Sky. ESP the number of midweek fixtures now televised. The Chansiri effect will be seen in Dec/Jan if he’s still here. And it’ll be much more substantial.

I would say 75/25 in favour of support the team v anti DC. There was very much a feeling of “all in this together” and “the team needs us [fans] more than ever” especially in the first half. We’ve seen before, when we score away, the players run to celebrate in front of the Wednesday fans. But yesterday felt different. Perhaps it was me getting emotional, but I felt that the players were acknowledging the support, for that first 25 mins, but also in the wider context. For the first half at least, we fans were the epitome of the 12th man. For a league game I’ve rarely experienced anything like it.

I think the players / manager could inform their Leicester counterparts (and the ref) that they’re not going to play until 5 minutes after scheduled kick off. Aligns to the fan protest. I reckon Leicester players will be sympathetic provided that the game is only delayed, not cancelled. The referee and EFL will have little to gripe about and whilst not being openly supportive would be unlikely to add further penalty to the club. For 5 mins both sides pass the ball about inside the centre circle with no intention of attacking the goal. Inform Sky 15 mins before kick off to re-focus discussion at a time when viewing figures are at their highest (although it’s likely to leak out anyway).

Clubs get more money if their games are the main midweek broadcast match or a weekend choice, don’t they? So not watching will damage viewing figures and thereby influence Sky’s future match choice. Thus, a TV viewing boycott of Sky matches with Wednesday involved will affect Chansiri’s finances. Whereas, a season ticket already paid for, left sitting in a drawer unused has zero impact on Chansiri.

Isn’t this the natural consequence of a spending boycott? You can’t support a boycott and then be surprised or dismayed when wages aren’t paid, yet again. There should be celebration not doom and gloom as it confirms DC’s empty pockets and brings a resolution closer. Unfortunately we might be nearer the end, but there’s a steep fall to suffer before/as we get there.

I’ll be going to the first home game. Not in my expected seat, but I’ll be there. Because I've paid, so I’m going. To support the team. To voice my protest at/to Chansiri. To say “up yours” to those telling me not to go and that, incorrectly, I’m supporting Chansiri and delaying his departure. I might even buy a bovril.

I agree with this, but also agree (up to a point) with @lurkingowl. With the EFL token and (currently) a place in the championship the potential for our club is considerable. If it materialises a price of £100m would be a bargain. But it’ll take massive investment to realise the potential, to get us to the premier league where an owner might be able to take money out of the club. If Chansiri wants £100m, and holds out for that much, he needs to schedule payments and caveat them on league position, e.g. £40m now, £30m if/when we get to EPL, £30m if we don’t get relegated in first two seasons. He knows the club is a money pit and needs vast sums to progress, but if he finds a billionaire interested in buying (and it seems that there are some) he needs to leave the new owner with enough available funds to invest to get the return that we (fans), the new owner, and Chansiri wants. It’s the only way he can hope to get anywhere need £100m. I not sure he sees it that way though.

It’s not going to be a pretty watch, but the boys deserve our support. I’ve bought my ST so I’ll be there most matches doing what little I can. I can’t see encouraging the boys to a honourable defeat, or even a glorious 0-0 will have any effect on DC’s departure or otherwise. As customers we can boycott the kiosks, as fans we should support the team as best we can.

And, if I remember correctly, Eustace (for a few minutes).

Which is why I used the term “any certainty”. The “probability” is that the linesman would have given it offside. Imo of course. I accept that there’s a possibility, small possibility, that the linesman would not have given it. Sunderland not really threatening and being lifted by the decision is irrelevant to whether or not the decision was down to VAR.