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I'll have to get myself one of these, probably the gold one.

Very sad news indeed. Thanks for everything you did, and tried to do. RIP Milan.

What a great article, from a great man. I think if Bannan didn't play, but was around the first team, he'd still be worth 10 points a season.

I'd absolutely back them to do this. As would the players of any team we are facing I'd imagine. Players may well be handomely paid, but they still have commitments based on what they should be receiving as a wage each month. It also sends out another, probably more important sign, that the players will not tolerate staff not being paid. Maybe the players have a comfort zone financially for a period of time, but it's more likely the staff don't. I believe it would also put the EFL in a position where something had to be done to resolve the entire situation once and for all, as this will impact not only the two teams scheduled to play, should any strike action happen, but it could possibly have a knock-on effect on other teams if fixtures need to rearranged.

Great work @SWFC Trust I'll certainly be getting one of those.

He was an old school professional. Wore the shirt with pride and honour. Always gave his all. Enjoy your retirement Lee.

I think the point is simple: If we keep on paying and giving Chansiri money, we could end up with no team to support. Neil recently asked a question to non-ST holders about why they would still go to matches. I'm a non-ST holder as I've been boycotting the club this way for 5 years. My decision very comfortably coincided with the birth of my son - my one and only child. I said I would still go to some games if my son asked. What I didn't explain is that I often get a free ticket and I'd just have to pay for my 5 year old. But that's still £9.00 (family stand) that I'm giving to Chansiri. Times that by 5 or 6 games, and we are up to £55.00. Times that by 500 others of the same mindset as I was, and we are now at £27,500.00. And the figure of 500 others, and 5 or 6 matches, is at a very low end. It could be 1000s still attending, for 10 or more games. We could be bankrolling our own demise. So I've taken the decision not to go to any games now. As things currently, what have no future. That's as close to being factual as is possible. If we keep bankrolling Chansiri, we could end up with no club, no team to support. I want to create as many memories with my son, at football (as well as other places), as is feasibly possible. For now, that means creating no memories at all, because long term, I'll be able to if we still have a club to support.

Then it's definitely time to unify behind the Trust, not attend and force a cancellation of the meeting. But we all know that won't actually happen, because there are still those who are blind and misguided.

I clicked "Agree" by the 4th line.

Then break into a 3 hour rant to himself about how without him, we'd be nowhere. If it is the case the the EP would be cancelled without any fans group representation, then now is definitely the time for all groups to unify and follow the lead of the Trust. I think I'm right in saying that these meetings are "legal" requirements by the EFL (or some other body) and it would send a further clear message to them that we, as supporters, will not tolerate this situation any further.

If no fans group attended, would that essentially cancel the EP meeting?

If my rationale is flawed, then so is yours, because you've just said the same thing as I have, bar the selling of the club. I never mentioned to who the loans are due to, because I don't know. What I do know, what we all know, is that there is litle 3rd party debt: New Avenue Projects being pretty much it. Ergo, any other debt must be personal, but that changes nothing. The monies are still owed, and it's my opinion that he's in well over his head. What I don't know and nor do you, is what his creditors are saying. They may be the ones putting pressure on him to hold out for a higher price. We've simply no way of knowing that. They may currently be comfortable with the situation at the club. We've no way of knowing that either. Logic dictates that neither of these things run true in normal situations, but we are dealing with Chansiri here. He may well have made promises to his creditors which he cannot back down from. He's extremely naive when it comes to business, takes no accountability for his actions and failings - blaming everyone else around him - and simpy cannot see what is blindingly obvious due to his narcissistic tendancies. He's also a gambler, hoping for that one "lucky" spin. These things will certainly be affecting his thought process somewhere. As I said, he's in well over his head. He has been since about 2017 in my opinion. Should he posses any business acumen, he and we wouldn't be in this situation. His personal funding has well and truly dried up and now he's trying to save face and his own wealth. In my opinion, he'll succeed at neither because his fragile house of cards is already falling down.

The "who" we will never likely know. The "what" is probably his personal debt to "who". I think of that we can be farily certain. Debt in business is far from a bad word. In fact the opposite can often be said. If the debt is managed and serviced correctly, it can - in the right hands and minds - propel a business forward. If sourced from a reputable company or individual, interest rates can be well below the projected return on investment. It also allows for any cash in the business prior to loan to remain in-situ. Importantly in Chansiri's case, it means no dilution of his sole ownership. Chansiri's debt is however in the wrong hands - his hands. He's a gambler, with zero or little forsight and planning. He has squandered every penny he has likely received and whoever this has come from, and it's my opinion it will be multiple sources, they'll want that money back and more. Any money he received wasn't on a charitable basis, even if from his own family. Returns on their investment were, and still are, expected. The position he is in seems to me, to be clear. His funding has dried up. The source of all previous funding is likely to be getting extremely twitchy right now, and some or all are probably looking at getting back as much as they can, while they can. And that is why he is asking a totally unrealistic and ridiculous price for the club. This is what is stopping him selling the club.

I don't have a ST so I could end up being classed as a non-boycotting supporter at some point. If it were just me, I wouldn't go, but if my 5 year old - who I desperately want to get the bug of going to games - says "daddy, can I go to the football to see my cousin and a friend, I'm likely to capitulate. If he asks for any food or merch, it's a straight "no" and I'll try my best to explain why. Going also means I'll catch up with friends who I wouldn't normally see outside of going to games, and I think that this is a HUGE part of what going to a match is all about. I know it's an old cliche, but it's the football family that people want to see on match days, as much as the game itself (moreso at the moment). So that's my adult answer. If I was a ST holder I would still go to games, for the same reasons as above. I'd have already paid my silver to devil, so why not turn up and support the team. Not being a ST holder I appreciate I am putting some money into the coffers, but it'd be very ad-hoc so the difference I am personally making is negligible. I appreciate the counter-arguemnt is "if enough people do the same, the money soon adds up" but is this honestly enough to keep Chansiri ticking over? I seriously doubt it. I also think that the more people in the ground who can form a protest, the better. I'll join any and every protest there is to force out this clown, but again personally, I'd have to balnce that out against boycotting games. I certainly wouldn't be sitting in silence.

At what cost? He gambled all his money in one season, and lost. Had he surrounded himself with people who know more about the game than he ever will, the same amount of money would have seen season-on-season sustainable growth, and right now we would have been looking at leaving this division the way we all want. No, I'm sorry. What he did was irresponsible, not successful. The bloke is a first rate clown.