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Aaaaaand out of nowhere, he’s moved onto getting angry about trans people. Absolute classic. His next sights will be climate change.

Joey Barton is going down a very similar track to Laurence Fox. Initially has a reasonable point that gets lost in bluster. People overreact and call him “far-right” which in turn makes him double down and get more and more mental, to the point where he actually does play the part he’s been accused of. I can genuinely see him joining Reclaim now.

I don’t necessarily agree, but that penultimate paragraph is true. I’m not sure why Joey Barton has decided to pick a fight with Laura Woods, Bianca Westwood et al or call people eunuchs. But his point (which is lost in all his bluster) is that women can’t offer the same insight into the men’s game, any more than a male who has never played pro-football can. I couldn’t really give a monkeys, but it’s a point I’d like to see sensibly debated more rather than having to pick between the Anti-Woke maniacs and the Cancel Culture enthusiasts.

Okay, that makes sense. Thankfully he hasn’t poached him.

Apologies if this has been answered before but how did we acquire Bailey into our academy? His dad is “head of individual development” at the sty, so given their academy has a much better reputation than ours, did he deem his son not good enough originally? If not, what was the story? Don’t get me wrong, I ain’t complaining, I just find it bizarre his dad is in a development role at our neighbours.

Our summer transfer activity and expected lack of January activity is effectively a 30 point deduction on ourselves.

Unfortunately, the way both the EFL and HMRC will see this is that Sheffield Wednesday FC are not meeting obligations and would be so punished. It’s not fair and in an ideal world, the owner would simply be confiscated of the club, but this is bad news for us.

Paying HMRC isn’t a luxury for fans, it’s an obligation. It’ll also presumably be from PAYE already paid by staff of the club or VAT already paid by others. After everything that’s already happened AND now this, if you still want that clown at the helm, you must be a blade. ”Be careful what you wish for” - well I’m not quite sure how a “wish” could make it worse. Scunthorpe and Reading fans seem more bothered than us. The time for cat footing around has to end. Support the team - absolutely But the Chansiri needs to know in no certain terms that none of us want him here. We’re not grateful for a splurge of money 7 years ago.

I wish there was a mechanism for football clubs to be confiscated from owners. Or even put in special measures like schools. The squad is worse than it was in League One last season, but players have been below their capabilities. Xisco was out his depth, and we’ve also had bad luck. BUT The guy who is responsible for 99.99% of this poo show is that clown Chansiri.

If Stoke-on-Trent, Nottingham and Bristol can live with 2 football league teams, Sheffield certainly can

It’s certainly on at the moment. Was is our lowest ever tally? We need to start a countdown on progress against it

I’ve said before I’d take Colin, but as a compromise for the haters, I’m sure he’d love us singing “Warnock’s a ********” instead of “Neil Warnock’s barmy army”

There are some legitimate criticisms of him, such that he’s a bit of a dinosaur, not for the long-term etc. And if people are against him on those grounds, fair enough. But personally, his track record of keeping teams up (and getting them promoted) is one of the best. I care first and foremost about Sheffield Wednesday, and hating the pigs is a byproduct of that. I wouldn’t not take someone as manager to the detriment of SWFC in the name of “hating pigs” and nor should any of us.

I’d take him. I know it nearly happened 10 years ago before him and Mandaric decided he wouldn’t be welcome. I hope an extra decade, the fact that pigs fans don’t like him anymore and that we’ve softened a bit up him would hopefully mean we’d consider it more from a football point of view. He would keep us up IMO and I’d love him here.

I presume I’m in this camp. My point was, I’m not prepared to pay £50 for sub-standard football when better teams charge much less, which is in part as punishment for our owner’s mismanagement. As a consequence, I won’t be there to spend on other things my son would want whilst there (which as an aggregate of reasonable price + subsistence at the game is probably more than solely the extortionate match ticket) I don’t just have a single figure for the lot.

I couldn’t make the first few home games, so this is the first I’ve chosen not to go to because of this price. I can afford it, but in an environment where all of my living costs are going through the roof and my mortgage will increase significantly next year, I can’t justify spending that on a football match, particular to pay for our owner’s mismanagement. However, if the price was more reasonable, I along with my dad and five year old son would have gone for sure. We would then have bought something in the club shop, bought stuff in the ground and generally continued the indoctrination of my son into Sheffield Wednesday. The longer I stay away, the less chance there is of that happening.

It’s not a pleasant away experience at that place.

Brighton and Newcastle went up together the same season we should have. But negative tactics and Jordan Rhodes “I don’t fancy doing the job I’m paid to do in a penalty shoot out thanks” saw that dream off

We’re way too tolerant as a fan base. The fact there are (albeit a decreasing number) people still in his camp is incredible. Enough is enough

I know who I believe

I wouldn’t object to her on the grounds of her genitalia and I see no reason why women can’t get jobs in mens football. However, despite the strides women’s football has made over the last few years, particularly in this country, she still doesn’t have the CV for it. If say, a manager had been incredibly successful in League 2, that person would not be under consideration for the England men’s job without being tested further up the pyramid (or possibly within the England set up like Southgate). This is what Wiegman would have to do - earn her place on merit in mens football, not just a non-analogous jump from England women to England mens.

I actually think ground improvements (or new ground completely) would need to come before promotion. We all saw the nonsense over Newcastle fans last season. It was exaggerated and unfair on us as a club, but the state of that stand will always leave us open to criticism (especially given its history). Imagine a 20 year old YouTuber there with Arsenal or Chelsea, he’d have a field day (and not give a stuff about its history). Ground improvements aren’t considered for FFP purposes. So if Chansiri was genuinely loaded, he’d do something.

Exactly, ramp up prices and man’s silly statements then don’t be surprised about fans getting disgruntled. Although I have to say, I doubt even the most optimistic fans expected top 6, just a team who can compete (and keep the ball more than 30% of the game). There are some differences between the seasons you mention though. In 05/06, we didn’t have a pot to pi$$ in and Sturrock did a remarkable job of keeping us up. 12/13 saw a complete overall plus possibly higher expectations than what we were capable of. But both seasons, the manager had a full pre-season to prepare. Muñoz hasn’t had long, and even then, most of the signings have come in the last week or so. I also think the Championship is much stronger than in 2005 or 2012.

As many have said, it’s the clueless, stubborn owner we want gone, not Muñoz. Because of his lack of learning from 8 years in English football, he had to go for a gamble in Muñoz to try to go for his totally unrealistic target of top 6. He wouldn’t have settled for a steady Eddie to comfortably steer us to lower mid table. I really hope we’ll see an adjustment to style and players settle in. But as someone said earlier in the thread, we look much worse than the 2020/21 side that went down.

Yes, he is a big loss to the Premier League in fairness, but as an England fan, it should help us. After France and maybe Argentina, we’re probably the best team in the world at the mo. We’ve got a fantastic chance of winning something but fine margins matter in tournaments. I’d rather our captain and talisman is used to winning going into those crunch games in the latter stages than being a bridesmaid. The Bundesliga isn’t what it was, but Bayern can win the Champions League.