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  1. Don't think so but the article dose say that ex-players and managers made sizeable donations
  2. "What we did when I did Wigan (oversaw their administration period), was the fans raised over £80,000 over a weekend and the fans there all got together and were fantastic." - Paul Stanley, joint administrator. We have raised around £65,000 on OT and the Trust fundraiser since Friday. 1.7k people have donated, which is fantastic, but when you think the Trust membership stands at over 4k its not as high as it could be https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-administration-news-5384777
  3. Rules on online gambling kick in unfortunately. They're almost impossible to get around
  4. Boycott participation last night exceeded all expectations - it was amazing. There was also some strange and unexpected reaction from people going in. Some said they were behind the protests in general, backed the Trust, wore black and gold scarves and said they wouldn't be renewing their STs. All a bit baffling
  5. The weird 'sacrifice' narrative is really overblown. Nobody is asking anybody to die on a cross. It's a footy match. Its on telly. The symbolism and optics of an empty stadium are just as important as the financial impact on DC. Take a collective stand with your fellow fans to send a clear message that his time is up
  6. The EFL are clearly worried that HMRC may issue a Winding Up Petition (WUP) that could lead to a winding-up order by the High Court and the start of liquidation proceedings. A creditor or DC himself could put the club into administration, which offers temporary protection from the WUP and allows an administrator to run the club and seek a buyer. If no suitable (i.e. acceptable to the EFL) bidders come forward a fan-led rescue bid might be the only option before the administrator moves to wind up the club. The rescue bid might consist of money raised from the fans by the Trust, possibly supplemented by money from High Net Worth individuals. It's an unenviable option but there are precedents: Portsmouth Supporters’ Trust (successful) Exeter City (still fan-owned) AFC Wimbledon (phoenix after liquidation of Wimbledon FC) Dunfermline Athletic (fan-led bailout in administration) Hearts (fan-led takeover post-administration)
  7. That will be 3 days dealing with SWFC and 2 days dealing with the other 115 regulated clubs
  8. The unsuitable owner test will go far wider than simply solvency
  9. The IFR will hold the first summit of all 116 regulated clubs in Manchester on Wednesday. IF SWFC send a representative maybe word will start to filter back that this is all getting real and numbskull will get the message. Legal challenge will be very expensive if he decides to go down the non-compliance route
  10. People are on it mate. Ratification of the appointment of David Kogan as Chair of the regulator is in the hands of the Commissioner for Senior Appointments William Shawcross, who is independent of ministers. Appealing to Steph Peacock won't help. Clive Betts has tabled an Early Day Motion in Parliament signed by Sheffield MPs and others urging Shawcross to get his finger out: That this House welcomes the ground breaking Football Governance Act 2025 which will establish an independent football regulator, with powers to hold to account rogue, dishonest and incompetent owners of football clubs and potentially remove their ownership of their clubs; further welcomes the speedy and decisive way in which the Shadow Regulator has issued a thorough and detailed consultation on how they intend to use their powers and given the desperate financial and governance situation at Sheffield Wednesday, recognises the urgency of appointing the regulator; and therefore calls upon Sir William Shawcross CVO to urgently conclude his review and for the Government then to confirm the appointment of David Kogan as soon as possible. https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/64349/football-regulator
  11. People simply don’t get it. The EFL itself doesn’t impose points deductions. If clubs breach EFL regulations they are referred to an Independent Disciplinary Commission (IDC), which operates on arbitral rules. An IDC is set up to hear each case - it is not a standing body. An IDC operates to its own timetable and procedures - independent of the EFL.The clue is in the name
  12. The problem is that the club is continuing to breach EFL regulations relating to payment obligations before the Independent Disciplinary Commission (IDC) has concluded its hearing. New charges are likely getting added and the Commission has to consider each charge on its merits. Remember that Chansiri is contesting the charges. Step 1: Original Charge Filed -------------------------------- • EFL serves Notice of Charge on club/owner • IDC is convened (panel appointed) • Hearing timetable set Step 2: Hearing Ongoing -------------------------------- • Evidence presented, submissions made • IDC actively reviewing facts Step 3: Additional Charges Arise During Ongoing Hearing -------------------------------- • New Notice of Charge issued • Same IDC panel usually continues • Each set of charges will have its own hearing bundle, timetable, and sanctions. • IDC may adjourn hearing to allow: - Disclosure of evidence - Legal arguments on new charges - Time for club/owner response
  13. Which companies were doing pretty well pre-Covid? His biggest company, Geminai & Associate made a profit in 2019 and nothing in any year before or since. Chansiri Real Estate made prifits in 2017-19 - they are landlords to Thai Union and Chansiri was a 25% shareholder
  14. It's not true mate. Here's what the recent consulation document on the Regulator's powers with respect to incumbent owners says: Assessing whether an incumbent owner or Senior Manager continues to meet the relevant fitness criteria The IFR’s draft guidance explains that it will conduct assessments on a case by case basis (as it proposes to do with applications to become a new owner or Senior Manager). The ODSE guidance also explains that the IFR may have regard to past events or incidents in relation to someone’s suitability including those occurring before the ODSE regime became operative. Respondents should refer to chapter 6 of the draft guidance for the principles that the IFR proposes to follow. Source: https://engage.footballregulator.org.uk/43834/widgets/131080/documents/90646
  15. For years, what went on in the world of Thai business felt remote and impenetrable to Wednesday fans. We were encouraged to believe that Chansiri was a wealthy “business tycoon” with a lucrative empire capable of bankrolling the club indefinitely. That perception, which was rarely questioned, has now been well and truly challenged by the Trust report. If Wednesday’s financial model relies on opaque, external funding from a patchwork of small businesses and loans — rather than on sustainable revenue — the risks are obvious and we are now living through the consequences. It's a pity this couldn't have been exposed a few years ago, but the sources weren't available then.
  16. The club and Chansiri personally are charged by the EFL. The players emplyment contracts are between player and club and it is these that have been breached, so the EFL had no choice but to charge the club. "The requirement for a Club to pay player wages is fundamental and late payment will result in misconduct proceedings", Chansiri has been charged under Regulation 21.2.2 for breaching an undertaking not to take - or omit to take - any action that would result in the club breaching EFL regulations. The EFL has referred the charges to an Independent Disciplinary Commission (IDC) and Chansiri has decided to contest the charges. The timetable is now in the hands of the IDC. Under the IDC procedures a hearing is scheduled, with both parties (the EFL as the prosecuting authority and the charged party) allowed to present evidence, witnesses, and legal arguments.There are strict reporting restrictions for IDCs and all we know so far is that a hearing date has been set, and the process of document disclosure is underway.
  17. Hope you're righ and its just a straight forward commercial loan by disinterested parties
  18. The ultimate lender(s) is really interesting point - it does make you wonder if ghosts from our past are involved
  19. Has anybody seen any signage about facial recognition at the entrances to Hillsborough - it is a legal requirement
  20. It's a good question. It was addressed to the club Data Protection Officer Lewis Cox. The only Lewis Cox that comes up on a search is this on LinkedIn
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